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BBC Bias - Collecting Examples here

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Wanderabout Wed 04-Jul-18 06:56:03

The lack of representation of the impact on women's rights on Newsnight last night while the clear problems were dismissed was ridiculous.

This thread is collecting examples of BBC failing to provide balance in representing women's concerns.

Wanderabout Wed 04-Jul-18 07:03:22

Day the consultation launched. Today programme had Nic Williams of FPFW on with Helen Belcher as the balance discussing the impact on women and concerns people have, which was a good balance

Newsnight has the Editor of Pink News having a cosy chat with Evan Davis and claiming people have been spreading 'misinformation' and that despite polls showing only 18% of people think self-id with no medical checks is not a good idea did not explain any reason other than 'they just haven't met a trans person'. None of this challenged by Evan Davis, no suggestion there was any alternative view posed.

Wanderabout Wed 04-Jul-18 07:04:58

I haven't seen this but lots of people were concerned about this Victoria Derbyshire piece:

Ereshkigal Wed 04-Jul-18 09:17:16

I reported the Sunday Politics show for bias for PN editor being allowed free rein with no balance from GC people.

I got back a condescending letter.
We aim to achieve due impartiality over a period of time and across our coverage; it’s not the case that every interviewee must appear alongside a contributor with the opposite viewpoint.

R0wantrees Wed 04-Jul-18 13:45:22

We aim to achieve due impartiality over a period of time and across our coverage; it’s not the case that every interviewee must appear alongside a contributor with the opposite viewpoint.

I actually think there is something substantive in this Ereshkigal

Woman's Hour were calling yesterday for emails and letters from listeners about sex and gender which will contribute to their series starting in the Autumn.

SeriousPurpose Wed 04-Jul-18 13:49:27

BBC News 24 yesterday, no biological woman to put forward an alternative view on women's rights.

Pratchet Wed 04-Jul-18 13:52:40

When was the last time they had a feminist on this issue without an opposing voice?

R0wantrees Wed 04-Jul-18 13:53:29

Does anyone know if its possible to watch this interview on catch up?

Pratchet Wed 04-Jul-18 13:53:57

In fact, isnt the no debate strategy a deliberate refusal to sabotage coverage by refusing to put up an opposing voice? Yes the bbc gives in?

SeriousPurpose Wed 04-Jul-18 13:59:14

The only way to correct the bias is to have the same minutes of GC feminists speaking alone in an interview with the same Bedfordshire to the trans activists on each programme broadcast already that was given to the trans activists.

SeriousPurpose Wed 04-Jul-18 13:59:51


heresyandwitchcraft Wed 04-Jul-18 14:10:17

I complained about Sunday Politics. They did send back a relatively long reply, in essence saying that they did feature Man Friday, that the presenter did challenge Mr Cohen, and they only had 8 minutes. They sent me some links to articles that have featured women's perspectives.
To be fair, I was happy for the breadcrumbs of coverage they gave us (and said as much), but this did not change the fact that the piece, which was framed as being about the debate, was heavily biased against women.
IIRC I counted approx 1.5 minutes in total of Man Friday (the only women speaking for women, and including them having to answer why they're not being terribly abusive bigots), and approx 3 minutes just of Mr Cohen alone, at the end. Although he was given a good question his response was unchallenged.
I found it to be poor journalism.
I think it's worth pointing out these imbalances, because there is a pattern and it's always women's rights that get the shaft.

Floorplan Wed 04-Jul-18 14:11:52

Channel 4 just as bad. C4 news yesterday. There was a presentation of the GRA highlights by the woman who chaired the debate in the C4 gender season. Very biased. Then she interviewed a gay pop star who actually spoke about trans and gay issues as if they were one and the same. Good points about gay acceptance but floppy arguments about identity. Then she interviewed 3 schoolgirls from a woke school who said people should be nice and accepting of people's identities.

Over50 Wed 04-Jul-18 14:16:06

Matthew Wright left over OTT trans sensitivity.

R0wantrees Wed 04-Jul-18 14:17:41

heresy&witchcraft There were specific claims made by Jane Fae on the Sunday Politics show which were not challenged and (I believe) to be worth considering.

If you felt inclined, it may be worth a follow up reply.

Ereshkigal Wed 04-Jul-18 14:25:42

When was the last time they had a feminist on this issue without an opposing voice?

That was my point.

Wanderabout Wed 04-Jul-18 14:26:07

We aim to achieve due impartiality over a period of time and across our coverage; it’s not the case that every interviewee must appear alongside a contributor with the opposite viewpoint.

@Ereshkigal please write back and ask them to provide the examples of GC women talking about the impact on women's rights with no opposition. Just this week there has been Pink News Ed on Newsnight unopposed AND unchallenged by the journalist with quite some accusations against lesbians and women's groups. Not sure what happened on Matthew Wright.

You could attach or reference the letter from FairPlay

Wanderabout Wed 04-Jul-18 14:27:05

The only one I can think of that might have done is Germaine Greer. I'd be pleasantly surprised if they have examples

heresyandwitchcraft Wed 04-Jul-18 14:32:42

I've actually responded already because I felt their answers were unsatisfactory and I got a little hot under the collar. I mentioned that Jane said trans people were being threatened and that ManFriday was causing abuse (although I forgot to ask, where's the evidence?), but they didn't even mention the actual bomb threats or harassment of biological women. It was especially galling as James Kirkup - who was on the show!- has written about this specific issue.
In short, I said thank you, but you still presented an unfair picture of the debate. It was biased.

Ereshkigal Wed 04-Jul-18 14:39:38

Wander, I will do.

Wanderabout Wed 04-Jul-18 14:49:46


R0wantrees Wed 04-Jul-18 14:58:56

I do think it will take a little time. There will be future Daily Politics shows and any assurances given now can be referenced.

R0wantrees Sun 12-Aug-18 07:32:37

Article by BBC following Cllr Gregor Murray's resignation:
"Trans councillor leaves roles after 'threats to life' "

Useful to compare it to Dundee Evening Telgraph's reporting:
"Dundee children’s convener quits after foul-mouthed social media outbursts"


BBC Editorial Values:
1.2.1 Trust

Trust is the foundation of the BBC: we are independent, impartial and honest. We are committed to achieving the highest standards of due accuracy and impartiality and strive to avoid knowingly and materially misleading our audiences.

1.2.2 Truth and Accuracy

We seek to establish the truth of what has happened and are committed to achieving due accuracy in all our output. Accuracy is not simply a matter of getting facts right; when necessary, we will weigh relevant facts and information to get at the truth. Our output, as appropriate to its subject and nature, will be well sourced, based on sound evidence, thoroughly tested and presented in clear, precise language. We will strive to be honest and open about what we don't know and avoid unfounded speculation.

1.2.3 Impartiality

Impartiality lies at the core of the BBC's commitment to its audiences. We will apply due impartiality to all our subject matter and will reflect a breadth and diversity of opinion across our output as a whole, over an appropriate period, so that no significant strand of thought is knowingly unreflected or under-represented. We will be fair and open-minded when examining evidence and weighing material facts.

1.2.4 Editorial Integrity and Independence

The BBC is independent of outside interests and arrangements that could undermine our editorial integrity. Our audiences should be confident that our decisions are not influenced by outside interests, political or commercial pressures, or any personal interests.

1.2.5 Harm and Offence

We aim to reflect the world as it is, including all aspects of the human experience and the realities of the natural world. But we balance our right to broadcast innovative and challenging content with our responsibility to protect the vulnerable from harm and avoid unjustifiable offence. We will be sensitive to, and keep in touch with, generally accepted standards as well as our audiences' expectations of our content, particularly in relation to the protection of children.

1.2.6 Serving the Public Interest

We seek to report stories of significance to our audiences. We will be rigorous in establishing the truth of the story and well informed when explaining it. Our specialist expertise will bring authority and analysis to the complex world in which we live. We will ask searching questions of those who hold public office and others who are accountable, and provide a comprehensive forum for public debate.

1.2.7 Fairness

Our output will be based on fairness, openness, honesty and straight dealing. Contributors and audiences will be treated with respect."

R0wantrees Sun 12-Aug-18 07:36:48

recent threads re Gregor Murray's comments:

AnchorMum Sun 12-Aug-18 07:59:02

Thank you Rowan - very useful information, and especially good to have the BBC Editorial Values listed for current and future reference.

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