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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anyone here not hate trans people?

217 replies

supermamabear · 06/02/2019 09:03

Just asking as I’m new to MN and appalled at the threads in here D:

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 06/02/2019 16:43

I’m going to call it at 16:39..

And a custard cream for tell STAT!!!

AliceToo · 06/02/2019 16:44

Surly its not about changing pysical sex but transitioning from one gender binary to the other. It's a two way street also.

sueanddumplings · 06/02/2019 16:46

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FoxyLaRoxy · 06/02/2019 16:49

Cool story Sue.

AliceToo · 06/02/2019 16:55

It is though.

One instinctivly know somthing racist is coming when the speaker opens with "I'm not racist but...."

Or similarly "I don't hate trans women but their existance threatens me because...."

AliceToo · 06/02/2019 16:59

Thing is ladies, a post op trans woman has no penis to assult your sensibilities or body with.

Or is it in the eyes?

Melroses · 06/02/2019 16:59

I’m shocked that the OP hasn’t returned, shocked I tell you.

It keeps happening Hmm

Apollo440 · 06/02/2019 17:00

You continue to deliberately misrepresent the GC position. The issue is with giving men unrestricted access to previously single sex areas which is what self id does. So unless you are willing to share your soul viewing goggles it remains a problem.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 06/02/2019 17:00

Explain for me again what ‘trans’ is in the modern parlance?

userschmoozer · 06/02/2019 17:01

ODFOD. No one says the existence of trans people threatens them. Get real.

Allowing all men who say they are women into women only spaces makes them single sex spaces and erases safeguarding.

Apollo440 · 06/02/2019 17:03

But you know that 90% of trans never have SRC and so are in full possession of male genitalia. Still not seeing the issue?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 06/02/2019 17:04

Maybe we need to distinguish between transsexuals and transgender (and good old transvestites)

Apollo440 · 06/02/2019 17:09

Transexuals get called transcum for making the distinction.

Gingerkittykat · 06/02/2019 17:12

Maybe we need to distinguish between transsexuals and transgender (and good old transvestites)

I genuinely don't know the difference.

Can I ask with self ID is there any way to stop people changing gender and then back again as it suits them?

CreakyBlinder · 06/02/2019 17:12

I don't.

I worry immensely about the disingenuous people who are jumping on the trans bandwagon for their own vile ends though.

But trans people? No worries.

NowtSalamander · 06/02/2019 17:30

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GlitterStick · 06/02/2019 17:40

Why is this thread being TAATed?

I'd have thought because people were asking for for genuine cases so one was given?

MIdgebabe · 06/02/2019 17:45

If you believe that REfusal to agree to a statement that a man is a woman is transphobic no wonder you see transphobia everywhere.

If you are happy to eradicate women, doesn’t that make you misogynistic ?

Ping pong

dragoning · 06/02/2019 17:49

Of course I don't hate trans people. That would be ridiculous.

FamilyOfAliens · 06/02/2019 17:50

That would be ridiculous.

A bit like this thread.

OccasionallyIncomplet · 06/02/2019 17:52

Yeah - there's some shocking views from the minority but very vocal Trans Denying 'feminists'. Each to their own I say.

R0wantrees · 06/02/2019 18:16

I certainly don't. I think it's a really difficult issue though, it's important to make as many people as possible feel as safe as possible, including minorities and non minorities. I have no idea what the answers are though!

Safeguarding frameworks exist to protect children and vulnerable adults. These frameworks are compromised by the failure to recognise that sex is a very relevent factor.

R0wantrees · 06/02/2019 18:20

When this is all over and the recriminations, from those whose bodies have been mutilated, start, the two people I would most like to see held to account are Ruth Hunt and Susie Green. Both women.

I am not sure. Is that because this is what women do to each other. Or simply because they should I feel they should know better.

Maria Miller can join Ruth and Susie in the spotlight. Uber feminist Lynne Featherstone too

It would be a great shame not to focus scrutiny on those who are most responsible for driving the lobbying which affects children and women.

They will almost all be male not female.

Datun · 06/02/2019 18:20

Thing is ladies, a post op trans woman has no penis to assult your sensibilities or body with.

They don't need it, they can just say ladies.

R0wantrees · 06/02/2019 18:21

More sexism on FWR?

Hmm