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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anyone here not hate trans people?

217 replies

supermamabear · 06/02/2019 09:03

Just asking as I’m new to MN and appalled at the threads in here D:

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 06/02/2019 10:27

Fuck off

See Grin

blooddiamond · 06/02/2019 10:31

@Datun I can define things just fine thanks, I just don't agree with you

NotANotMan · 06/02/2019 10:41

@blooddiamond
Do you define sex between a person with a penis who penetrates a person with a vagina using their penis as lesbian sex?

MsMcWoodle · 06/02/2019 10:51

I'm not keen on the guy who pointed me out to the baying mob when I attended a WPUK meeting.
Not keen on the person who threatened another meeting I went to with a bomb.
I'm disgusted by the glee of some transactivists when they achieve something that is detrimental to women.
Disgusted with various political parties for their collusion. As an ex Green party member and a frequent Labour voter this particularly applies to them.
I do actually hate people who are advocating the sterlisation and mutilation of children.
I really admire Kristina Harrison, Miranda Yardly, Fionne Orlander, Seven Hex and Debbie Hayton. Most trans rights activists seem to hate them. Only 2 of this group left on twitter after mass reporting for 'wrong think'.
Oh and I really really hate Stonewall.
HTH

blooddiamond · 06/02/2019 10:52

I guess nobody hear has heard the news about strapons huh

userschmoozer · 06/02/2019 10:54

@supermamabear
do you think women should have the right to women only psychiatric wards and prisons?
do you think women should have the right to ask for a women to perform a smear test?

did you know we have already lost those rights?

blooddiamond · 06/02/2019 10:55

*here
My apologies

Calvinsmam · 06/02/2019 10:55

I guess nobody hear has heard the news about strapons huh

Oh my god! Have they managed to create live sentient strap ins now that are a full male human?

Or are you seriously saying that if you like being penetrated by an inanimate object then that’s the same as being penetrated by a penis attached to a male body.

SciFiScream · 06/02/2019 10:56

I definitely don't hate trans people. Why would I? They don't know me, I don't know them. I do have favourites though. Some trans people are wonderful advocates for female rights.

My wish to protect single sex spaces for women and men does not equal a hatred of trans people.

I love the Vulcan philosophy of IDIC - infinite diversity, infinite combinations.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplands · 06/02/2019 10:57

I'm replying as I'm hopeful OP may have an answer to the following -

Please provide an actual, specific example of hate towards trans people. Be sure to check your dictionary definition of hate first because criticism, concerns or questioning of TRA garble is just that and not hate.

And no I don't think I hate anyone really. I want everyone to be free to be themselves and mindful and respectful of others around them. If the safety, protection and dignity of women and children is compromised then I've got a problem with whoever is threatening that.

However the next time I hear someone shrieking about trans people having their very existence denied I may have a tantrum and shake them very vigorously. How the F can anyone have their existence denied?

MsMcWoodle · 06/02/2019 10:57

Yes Calvinsmam. These strapons can also get you pregnant and give you an STD.

Calvinsmam · 06/02/2019 10:59

Wow, I think I’ll pass then.

I have a vibrator the shape of a dolphin, does that mean I’d be ok with shagging a dolphin too?

MagicMix · 06/02/2019 11:03

I'm not a lesbian, but I've heard stories from lesbians of boundary-pushing straight men hassling lesbians with the 'logic' that if they use strap-ons they may as well just have heterosexual sex. So they had a good argument there, did they?

TinyRick · 06/02/2019 11:11

boundary-pushing straight men

The kind to 'identify' as lesbian? 🤔

MagicMix · 06/02/2019 11:19

From what I have heard, no that kind (unless in the funny joke haha I'm a lesbian too way). Just your run-of-the-mill pushy straight men trying to chat up women and not taking no or 'I'm a lesbian' for an answer.

Datun · 06/02/2019 11:19

blooddiamond

@Datun I can define things just fine thanks, I just don't agree with you

Both those things can't be true at the same time.

Two men having anal sex using their penises identify as women? That is considered lesbian sex by the transideology.

If you agree with that, you can't define things. If you disagree with that, you're transphobic.

blooddiamond · 06/02/2019 11:28

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Soubriquet · 06/02/2019 11:38

Don’t forget men who say to lesbians “ maybe you just haven’t met the right guy yet. Come and have a go with me and I’ll set your right Wink

not2daysanta · 06/02/2019 11:39

It's pretty overpowering, isn't it?

Fortunately, it's a fractious group - there's
a) the morally bankrupt who're cosying up to far-right groups who actively work against reproductive and LGB rights, then there's
b) the apologists who loudly denounce the actions of the former, while their heads are firmly underground about the natural end of their "discourse".

The two sides will soon eat each other. Then the rest of us can move on to fighting for women's rights (which is more than just anti-trans, contrary to what this board would lead you to believe).

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 06/02/2019 11:44

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TowelNumber42 · 06/02/2019 11:46

I wonder if OP hates people who think humans can't change sex.

TowelNumber42 · 06/02/2019 11:47

Down with hate. Up with love (oooh er missus)

I love science.

Acornriver · 06/02/2019 11:48

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Sicario · 06/02/2019 11:50

I know some lovely trans people. It's the violent nutters who hate women and deny facts that I have a problem with.

AssignedFuckerAtBirth · 06/02/2019 11:55

No reply from the Op What a surprise!