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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anyone here not hate trans people?

217 replies

supermamabear · 06/02/2019 09:03

Just asking as I’m new to MN and appalled at the threads in here D:

OP posts:
QuentinWinters · 06/02/2019 12:36

Would you like to join me in the 'today can just fuck up club' ?

Can I join please? Currently debating whether it's worth going to see DP tonight or whether my time would be more usefully spent a) asleep by 8.30 pm or b) drinking alone

Today can do one

stillathing · 06/02/2019 12:38

I hate all people who threaten or use their penis as a weapon. Be it rape of a stranger or a spouse. Be it rape using violent force or rape taking advantage of another's inability to stop it. Be it corrective rape threatened against lesbians by some prison guards or threatened by some transwomen. Be it rape of a female or rape of a male - of any or no gender identification.

By definition all of those people raping with their penis are male. A very few are transwomen. So I guess I hate those trans people but I'm certain that is not the majority of trans people.

If anybody would like to tell me why I shouldn't hate bio males - or ejaculators if you prefer - who threaten or carry out rape then be my guest.

userschmoozer · 06/02/2019 12:41

I'm curious about the sort of people who are determined to dismantle safeguarding.

TradingMum · 06/02/2019 12:45

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tellmewhenthespaceshiplands · 06/02/2019 12:48

Trading think you posted here by mistake?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 06/02/2019 12:50

I'm curious about the kind of people who interpret women saying

you are a male and yet are a woman and would therefore like all spaces that were previously single sex to preserve safety, dignity and privacy to be changed to mixed sex? - would you mind explaining on what basis you are a woman so we can check that this is a good idea?

as hatred

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 06/02/2019 13:02

This is a when did you stop beating your wife question.

Bore off OP. Disingenuous arse.

TowelNumber42 · 06/02/2019 13:06

Got to love the OP's name. It's got mama, I belong here It's got super better than you guys It's got bear fur thing?

mogtheexcellent · 06/02/2019 13:08

I hate people that start goady threads and aubergines. HTH

StarsAndWater · 06/02/2019 13:13

Like pretty much everyone else on this thread, I'd like to point out that I don't hate trans people.
I've also seen very little actual transphobia on this board and would encourage anyone to report it if they do see it.
I have seen a lot of misogyny and misrepresentation of women as transphobic though, as well as claims and accusations that are never backed up. Pretty much like the OPs, in fact.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 06/02/2019 13:14

quentin

Yeah you can...

Stupid fucking Wednesday Angry

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 06/02/2019 13:33

My Wednesday has also turned out to be stupid

It can fuck right off until it becomes Thursday

Can I join your club Rufus ?

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 06/02/2019 13:38

Yep

Everyone who would like Wednesday to do one can join

NoseringGirl · 06/02/2019 13:55

Excellent, and there's still biscuits for this club yes?

PositivelyPERF · 06/02/2019 14:04

puts hand up at the back of the crowd can I join the Fuck Off club too please?

I’m pissed off because I’ve run out of oat milk, so I’m going to have to drink black coffe, because I’m getting that ‘no coffee = hang over feeling’. 🥴

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 06/02/2019 14:11

Yep we still have biscuits and if positively can beat her way to the front of the crowd she can join as well Grin

BlueThing · 06/02/2019 14:13

No, I don’t hate trans people. There is a lot of transphobia (not that I’ve seen any here) and I think it must be incredibly difficult for many transpeople in their day to day lives.

If OP is so appalled at MN threads, why did s/he join? Why get appalled and then join? Or join and get appalled and stay to post? If that makes sense....COFFEE.

User383673 · 06/02/2019 14:27

ME! I think that trans women are women and wholly pro-trans. I find the trans threads on MN very hard to deal with so have learned not to engage. It’s hard though!

PositivelyPERF · 06/02/2019 14:35

I think that trans women are women

How does that work, then? How are they women?

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 06/02/2019 14:38

Please provide an actual, specific example of hate towards trans people.

How about the mother who didn't want her daughter to be in the same school-house as a trans child? How is that anything other than fear/dislike? Not that she didn't want her daughter to be in the same changing room as the child, but genuinely didn't want her to be part of the same house. Not safeguarding- prejudice.

I am gender critical, but fucking hell, anyone saying there is NO transphobia on here is kidding themselves.

Stringofpearls · 06/02/2019 14:38

I certainly don't. I think it's a really difficult issue though, it's important to make as many people as possible feel as safe as possible, including minorities and non minorities. I have no idea what the answers are though!

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 06/02/2019 14:39

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HollowTalk · 06/02/2019 14:40

I think that trans women are women

Do you mean you think they ARE women or they should be treated as if they are women?

PositivelyPERF · 06/02/2019 14:42

Yep we still have biscuits and if positively can beat her way to the front of the crowd she can join as well

On my way.

Anyone here not hate trans people?
stillathing · 06/02/2019 14:44

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3500970-More-on-the-Scottish-dental-student-child-abuse-story

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3500965-Female-only-spaces-must-be-given-greater-protection

Two current threads which are typical of the kind of thing posters on this feminist chat board are concerned about. Both are extremely upsetting and shocking to read about. Both have been dealt with appallingly. Women and children so often don't even get the justice they deserve let alone the safety. Both of the perpetrators, like over 90% of all sexual offenders, have penises, were born with penises, ergo are male.

OVER 90% OF SEXUAL CRIMES. Why would anyone be so committed to stopping women naming the pattern of male crime offending?