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David Davies MP speaks out about harrassment, calls for stop to GRA reform & urgent review involving women's groups.

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 16:26

twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1052203110335217664

David Davies MP speaks out about harrassment, calls for stop to GRA reform & urgent review involving women's groups.
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BigotedWoman · 16/10/2018 16:30

Good for him. Hope others will join him.

R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 16:32

Would be interesting to know which Conservative MP threatened him with police action.

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LizzieSiddal · 16/10/2018 16:33

A govt consultation being discussed and a govt mp wants to call the police? Why?

LizzieSiddal · 16/10/2018 16:34

Whose the mp who thinks you can choose your babies sex by taking a drug?

Redkeyboard · 16/10/2018 16:34

MP threatening to call police - guessing Stephen Doughty?

KatVonGulag · 16/10/2018 16:35

He's brave.

Redkeyboard · 16/10/2018 16:35

Oh no it’s a Tory. Bercow?

NameChangedAgain18 · 16/10/2018 16:36

Doughty is Labour, so not him.

Popchyk · 16/10/2018 16:37

My money is on Bercow.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 16/10/2018 16:39

Good on him!

LizzieSiddal · 16/10/2018 16:39

Sarah Champion?

NameChangedAgain18 · 16/10/2018 16:40

No, Sarah Champion is Labour.

R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 16:40

More here from TalkRadio:

"Conservative MP David Davies says he has been threatened with police action because he held meetings in parliament on transgender concerns.

He held a meeting in Portcullis House on Tuesday morning for the campaign group Fair Play for Women, who are opposed to proposals to make it easier for transgender people to legally change gender.

“As an MP I’ve held three meetings like this,” he told talkRADIO.

“The second one resulted in me having to spend a long time with the serjeant-at-arms [the official responsible for security matters in Commons], going through what we were trying to do as if we were trying to do something outrageous.

“I then had a three month investigation by the standards commissioner.

“I was threatened by a police investigation by another Conservative member of parliament.”

In March, Lib Dem MP and LGBT rights campaigner Zoe Williams reported Mr Davies to the standards commissioner, saying he was charging for tickets for an event that he held on behalf of campaign groups in the House of Commons.

The complaint was not upheld."
talkradio.co.uk/news/david-davies-threatened-police-action-holding-meetings-transgender-concerns-18101628380

I think there is an error in the article and that the complaint was from Zoe O'Connell LibDem councillor (Cambridge) also Stonewall trans advisory group.

Thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3263172-Andrew-Gilligan-Latest-bullying-transgender-complaint-swiftly-rejected-by-parliamentary-standards-committee

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Redkeyboard · 16/10/2018 16:42

Penny Mordaunt?

arranfan · 16/10/2018 16:43

Why ever would any of this make anyone think we're living through the pre-conditions for the Origins of Totalitarianism?

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Are the people doing this ever going to wake up and wonder just what they've done and how they can begin to unpick it?

Needmoresleep · 16/10/2018 16:43

Thank heavens for David Davies. He is brave, and noticeably alone. However he is protected by being both male and an MP. I am sure he too would acknowledge how much more difficult it is for women who are neither, to speak up.

This is a Government consultation ffs.

R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 16:44

article continues:

"Fair Play for Women spokesperson Nicola Williams invited selected press to the Tuesday meeting, but they - including talkRADIO - were asked to leave by Mr Davies.

He said that the politicians in attendance would not want to be "grilled" by journalists.

Labour MP Tonia Antoniazzi, who arrived before the meeting had started, said she would leave if the press remained in the room.

Journalists were not permitted to observe the meeting, but were allowed in ten minutes bfore the end.

Conservative MPs Maria Caulfield and Andrew Selous attended, as well as Labour MPs Karin Smyth and Paul Williams.

Caulfield and Selous said some of their constituents had written asking them to attend, and Caulfield said that she would write to women and equalities minister Penny Mordaunt, who first brought the consultation about, to ask her to extend it."

Hopefully these MPs will be thanked for attending.

Context of MPs fear discussed this week:
blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/even-our-mps-are-afraid-of-the-transgender-mob/

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CaptainKirkssparetupee · 16/10/2018 16:44

Something is going on here, i can't work out what, but it's much bigger than stonewall.

GulagsMyArse · 16/10/2018 16:44

Jesus, other MPs threatning to call police ?? WTF this whole fucking thing is rigged.

Needmoresleep · 16/10/2018 16:44

Maria Miller?

R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 16:47

continues:
Mr Davies called the consultation “flawed”.

“It’s based on the recommendations of the equality committee. They certainly didn’t go out and take evidence from women’s groups on what the impact might be of allowing people to change their gender without any checks and balances,” he said.

“Ideally I’d like to see it stopped and the whole process restarted after the government and ministers have had a proper conversation with women’s groups about their rights to protection.”

He said MPs who chose to attend the meeting may not have wanted to “justify themselves to the press”.

“It’s very difficult to raise this issue,” he added.

“I’ve already done that I’ve taken the heat for it and I’m happy to continue doing so.”

LGBT+ Conservatives, the official LGBT group in the party, have criticised Mr Davies for his views in the past. They have been contacted for comment."

So this would be, amongst others, Sue Pascoe LGBT+ Conservatives and newly appointed diversity & inclusion consultant for Channel 4?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3331095-Channel-4-appoints-a-new-advisor-on-inclusion

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3383926-Sue-Pascoe

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NameChangedAgain18 · 16/10/2018 16:48

Caulfield and Selous said some of their constituents had written asking them to attend, and Caulfield said that she would write to women and equalities minister Penny Mordaunt, who first brought the consultation about, to ask her to extend it."

Caulfield was one of those on the committee when Miller’s totally rigged trans report was produced.

Redkeyboard · 16/10/2018 16:48

I really want to know which MP threatened to call the police about a bunch of women discussing safeguarding and their rights.

LizzieSiddal · 16/10/2018 16:49

Does anyone know how the meeting today went in Parliament?

Did any other MPs turn up?

Binglebong · 16/10/2018 16:49

I know there are calls for Berciw to resign over something. Has said no but is going next year (hurrah!) but I don't think it's related to this.

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