Was King Charles wrong to take a rose from Charles Spencer's bouquet?

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Charles Spencer says as Diana's coffin was lowered into the ground, several people there dropped flowers on the coffin. King Charles took a rose from Charles Spencers bouquet and dropped it on Diana's coffin.

This struck me as it shows a very casual disregard for other people's feelings. This was Charles Spencers flowers, but without a thought, king Charles took mine of the flowers. And remember relationships were extremely strained between the two men.

Sometimes I think the smallest incidents like this can reveal someone's true character. It's like someone being rude to a waiter. The king just acts like no one else matters except what he wants.

Did this need a thread to itself instead of using one of the many other very active threads about Charles Spencer?

To answer your question: No, it was fine. And it’s a trivial thing to get worked up about thirty years later compared to the death of a sister.

I’m afraid you lost me at “Charles Spencer says..”

Charles Spencer is hardly equivalent to a waiter.

I’m not a royalist, I’d prefer a republic, but in the meantime I’m not sure Charles Spencer’s character is so upstanding that he’s in a position to cast stone at anyone else’s behaviour.

It easy to take pot shots a someone he knows can’t defend himself directly and won’t sue.

Charles Spencer is exploiting his sister’s memory for money, to the detriment of his nephews.

People behave badly, or ill advisedly, at funerals in the best of circumstances, which these assuredly were not

Did the roses really "belong" to Charles Spencer, though? Can flowers genuinely belong to one specific individual? Property is theft, after all - it sounds like this King Charles was just doing a bit of material redistribution in the interests of restorative social justice. It's hard to object to this, especially as he apparently didn't even keep any of the roses for himself.

Which one of the following behaviors below was objectively evil:

a. King Charles took a rose from Charles Spencer's bouquet
b. Charles Spencer went to Princess Diana's funeral with his mistress while he prevented his wife and mother of his four children to attend the funeral

i thought this was some kind of weird euphemism
as in spencer family member taken from the family

Good grief. It would have been a bit of a non-event at the time, let alone holding a grievance about it 30 years later.

I think it’s worth people looking into Charles Spencer’s own history, particularly what he has said himself about his life, before taking all of these recent claims at face value.

That doesn’t mean I think his past automatically makes him unreliable. It doesn’t. But we are talking about memories from nearly 30 years ago, and some pretty serious claims about private conversations and what Charles supposedly meant or was thinking.

So far, I haven’t seen anything that independently backs these claims up, there doesn’t seem to be any photograph or video of the burial showing Charles taking the flower.

As far as I can tell, it comes down to Spencer’s recollection of what happened.
That may be completely accurate. But equally, we can’t know that it is.
The same goes for the claim that Charles was “giddily elated” when Spencer told him about Diana. Spencer can tell us that’s how Charles sounded to him, but that isn’t the same as knowing what Charles was actually feeling or thinking. So no I don’t believe him, this just seems like spite.

A man whose wife had just died took a flower from a bouquet and dropped it on her coffin. He prob didn’t even know whose bouquet it was.

Ex wife

Spencer has had a sudden desire to tell all these stories. Lucky he’s remembered them all really, otherwise people might not be so interested in his book.

Victim mentality is live and well in that side of the family. Can only imagine the conversations he and Harry have had.

Yep. When Diana died it had been 5 years and 8 months since their separation had been publicly announced. And 3 years and 8 months since their divorce had been finalised.

It really isn't healthy.

Taking a flower from a wreath and putting it in the grave is a common thing to do at funerals.

Yes he was, imo.

It’s not so much the not asking. It’s the fact Charles (king) couldn’t be bothered to come with his own flowers and then decided he wanted to join in. It’s a lack of respect.

I am not a royalist but all this bashing is making me want to get a union jack t-shirt and stand outside the palace cheering got the king

Spencer has had multiples wives, I think one made a complaint about DV, a daughter who didn't ask him to her wedding, short of money....

The king may not have been perfect but dragging up trivial now is just awful.

No, it is not common to take a flower from someone else’s arrangement and throw it into the grave without asking them first.

i haven’t read much about his book, but if this is the type of stories he’s telling , it makes me think the meetings with his editors were like when the police are interviewing someone on a show and ask them to think of any details they can remember, however insignificant they may sound 😂

I agree. The person claiming this is common must have only seen funerals on TV.

The king took a flower from a close relatives flower arrangement. The king had been separated from Diana for nearly six years and had only ever had two phone calls with Diana's brother. So the king and Charles Spencer were not close.

I would be aghast at an ex husband taking a flower from my bouquet to throw on his ex wife's coffin.

I think it's entitled behaviour. The king is used to doing or saying whatever he wants and everyone else goes along with him. So he didn't think twice about Charles Spencers feelings, only his own.

No. How pathetic to moan about this.

He threw a flower on to her coffin. It wouldn’t have mattered if he’d picked a daisy.

He probably doesn't think ahead about anything. He gets staff t9 do this and would have blamed staff for not magically providing him with flowers.

Picking a Daisy would have shown at least a modicum of respect and restraint.

I think it all leads back to the fact that family think they’re untouchable.

Its stories like this that just make me loose respect for the person telling the memoir, as I feel it just pushes the agenda.

To me, CS agenda for this book is not to just tell the story of his sister, its to announce to the world that "King Charles did this, and this and this and this and look what a shit he is..." The "bad things" from CS feel either forced and pathetic (like the rose) or not genuine (I don't believe the "we'll forget her soon enough" comment exactly as CS says it, I feel there is a lot more misremembering or context behind the comment, but that wouldn't make for such a shocking read or paint KC in such a terrible light)

The rose is such a non event, and I'd say that if it happened at the funeral of one of my loved ones. Surely they putting the flower onto the coffin is respect for the deceased person, the flowers are for the deceased anyway, what does it matter if an extra one is taken by someone to put on the coffin

My God, he’s a vengeful and spiteful man. Imagine festering for 30 years about this and then making money out of it.

Why is he telling us this now?