Why is a proper cool toned lipstick so hard to find these days?

[MrsPelligrinoPetrichor]

Anything with a hint of warmth is useless on me and makes me look very 'odd' 🙄 Even MAC doesn't have anything suitable, they're all too warm or too nude.

I got a Bourjois one this morning which I think will be ok, properly pink.

Primark used to be fantastic for lip crayons which were fantastic pinky nudes but no more 🙄

Am I missing somewhere obvious I should be looking? Even Rimmel Asia is no good for me but Soft Hearted is.

[SirChenjins]

Watching with interest. I wear No. 7 Waterlily all the time but I need inspiration.

[MrsPelligrinoPetrichor]

Off to Google Waterlily....

[SirChenjins]

I think it’s cool toned - anything that’s marked warm tone just looks odd on me, but this doesn’t so I thinks it’s cool

[MrsPelligrinoPetrichor]

Waterlily is definitely cool but a bit too vibrant for my thin, post menopausal lips but Cameo looks good by no7. I'll test out in Boots next time I'm there. Just remembered they used to do a very sheer one called Parisian Pink which was great.

I try on the pad of my finger rather than my hand and if it looks right it'll look ok on my lips, I can instantly tell if it'll look wrong.

[MrsPelligrinoPetrichor]

Bourjois 10 Don't over Pink it is what I bought this morning.

[SirChenjins]

It’s actually nowhere near as bright on as it looks in the photos- I have very pale skin so anything bright makes me look really washed out. I need a bit of colour to stop me looking ill, so nudes are out, but nothing too bright. Cameo looks good, as does the Bourjois one - will take a look at both of those

[MrsPelligrinoPetrichor]

Oh great, I'll take a look at Waterlily then. I'd just really like a good selection not just the one lippie in a whole range which is just about alright. I'm looking at Bobbi Brown Art sticks too they'd better be good for the price 😱

[MrsPelligrinoPetrichor]

Bourjois seems to be half price on Amazon at the moment.

[ZingyCosmo]

I know you've mentioned Mac, but have you tried Velvet Teddy? I also need cool and was dubious trying this, as it's such a 'thing' and looked like it would disappear on me. It's really good though. Think it's probably a cool to neutral colour.

[ZingyCosmo]

Actually, just had a Google and apparently it's more a warm tone, so ignore me 🤣 but it also says it suits warm and cool tones, so maybe that's why it works for me.

[Itsonlyagame]

Warm tones look awful on me too. Almost all nude lipsticks seem to be warm toned nowadays. I've just started wearing brighter colours instead.

[MrsPelligrinoPetrichor]

Velvet Teddy looks shocking on me 🤣 I've been through all the Mac ones as a friend works for them,thank you though!

[Eyeofthestorm7]

Yes Bobbi Brown definitely worth the money.

[ArseInTheCoOpWindow]

I always found Bourjois the best for cool toned skin. All the rest are shit. But l always seem to find one in Bourjois.

[ZingyCosmo]

Sorry OP 😂 Did I manage to pick the worst one?!

[MrsPelligrinoPetrichor]

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

I always found Bourjois the best for cool toned skin. All the rest are shit. But l always seem to find one in Bourjois.

They're just about ok but still warmer than I'd like. They ruin a perfectly good rose lippy by making it slightly orangey nude somehow ! Best of a bad bunch though at the moment.

[MrsPelligrinoPetrichor]

@ZingyCosmo

Sorry OP 😂 Did I manage to pick the worst one?!

You really did but thank you anyway 🤣

[Whataretheodds]

I was just in the Body Shop looking for a dupe for my benetint lip stain. They def had a couple of cooler colours.

[ZingyCosmo]

🤦🏻‍♀️

[MrsPelligrinoPetrichor]

I'll take a look at BS,thanks!

[ArseInTheCoOpWindow]

This?

[picklemewalnuts]

Can you explain the warm and cool colours thing? I don't get it.

I've read up, but still can't grasp it.

Something about a yellow or pink undertone... which I don't get.

[MrsPelligrinoPetrichor]

@picklemewalnuts

Can you explain the warm and cool colours thing? I don't get it.

I've read up, but still can't grasp it.

Something about a yellow or pink undertone... which I don't get.

Cool toned lipsticks are pinky/ blue based and good for pale / pink skin tones.

Warm tones are oranges/ some reds although there are blue reds/ browns/ nudes.

[MrsPelligrinoPetrichor]

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

This?

That looks VERY hopeful 👍👍👍👏

[Darkoutsideclosethecurtains]

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