Concerns about racism

[PandoraSocks]

Hi there Mumsnet HQ

Many of us are concerned about the uptick of hatred, xenophobia and racism on the site over the past couple of weeks. Most of the bigotry is focused on asylum seekers. MNHQ will of course delete racism etc. if reported, but this has gone way beyond a few hateful posts.

Links below to three examples of threads which have descended into real nastiness.

Cheers.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/in_the_news/5385273-civil-unrest-whats-really-going-on?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5385914-do-you-believe-there-will-be-a-civil-war?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5386073-to-be-so-fed-up-amd-disheartened-with-all-the-xenophobia?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

Jen ever is fab. Especially Oude Jenever.
I do like gin, but don’t like overtly flavoured ones. I like ones with clever botanicals. Especially warmer spicy ones. I had one rested in Palo Cortado casks a while back. Bloody lovely.

Ok fair enough, to be honest I am new to MN and it has me scratching my head at times

Now I am distraught about the lack of routes to Cuba because my last bottle of great Cuban rum ran out at Christmas. Given half a chance I would probably be the only one on a small boat from Florida going the other way!

I like small batch gins from regional distilleries. Nothing fruity, nothing bland.
Damn, now I want gin, but I’m going walking tomorrow and waking up with a hangover will cramp my enthusiasm (never that strong at 6am anyway). Even the smallest amount of gin gives me a hangover these days, the Curse Of The Middle Aged Woman

If yiu can find any posts calling individuals racist, report. But you will find none on this thread.

Yeah, this is exactly why I said earlier that we shouldn't be commanded to explain why something is racist to appease apparently surprised posters...

Agree.

That's interesting. I'm Dutch and I quite like jenever, but it has to be Oude Jenever and it has to be served cold enough to freeze the outside of the glass. I am however very partial to a gin and tonic.

This thread isn't about immigration, as pointed out. The fact that it's in Site Stuff should really be a clue to that effect.

Now, about the gin vs whisky debate - which side are you on?

My niece owns just such a distillery in West Wales (outs self)

Sad about your hangover sitch. Hasn’t got me that way.

I may well have bought from there! Near a place beginning with M? (don’t answer if you don’t want to!)

No - my username is the clue (I don’t live up there anymore).

Quite, @ilovesooty and we've banned a fair few.

As mentioned upthread, the patten of posting is an important consideration for us.

I know where - very nice. Stopped there when I was touring from Goodwick.

They’ve done so well. They do the first grain to glass Welsh whisky now too. Barley grown locally, water from a local spring based supplier. Not even Penderyn do that.

Thanks for raising this, @MrsBennetsPoorNerves - we often do take the whole thread down. It’s not always a simple call, though. More often, threads include a mix of views, including posters challenging or correcting each other. As you mention, we’ll remove individual posts that break the rules, and if the overall balance of a thread tips into something that’s clearly hateful or no longer in the spirit of the site, we will remove the whole thing. We also rely on the reports to help us spot when that tipping point has been reached so we do urge posters not to assume it's not worth reporting - it always is, even if the individual post you reported isn't deleted at the time.

Dark chocolate apricot and pistachio nut brownies.

Oh my goodness, those sound like heaven.

Didn’t you think the injured Gazan children tipped into that kind of territory though? It was vile and stood until it filled up.

What’s with the derailing of this thread? Have I missed something?

@BeckyAMumsnet thank you, that is very useful to know.

Just a bit of light relief 😀

There’s been a report from a journalist who infiltrated a far right group saying they had a planned attack on all social media forums, posts to turn them into negative on immigration, thousands upon thousands shared links for others to jump on.
the digital age is ridiculous

@BeckyAMumsnet I suggested earlier in this thread that when multiple or daily threads pop up with different title, same topic, that you could consider directing them to the previous one. Is that a go-er?

They're really easy. I'll send you the recipe if you like. The absolutely key thing is not to chicken out of taking them out when the timer runs out, you stick in a skewer and it doesn't quite come back clean. If you've got mild cracking on the top, they're DONE. Leave them longer and they turn into stodgy cake - still taste great, but without that brownie texture.

That sounds interesting. Do you have a link, please?