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To be so fed up amd disheartened with all the xenophobia

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Nohqters · 04/08/2025 21:56

Honestly, I’m just feeling worn out and heartbroken lately. It seems like racism and xenophobia are becoming more and more mainstream again, wrapped up in the same tired scare stories, whether it’s splashed across a tabloid or coming straight out of Farage’s mouth. Then you see stupid threads on here about civil war trying to stir up more hate.

Even my own brother has started sounding like Tommy Robinson. Ten years ago, that would’ve been unthinkable. It’s like people have completely forgotten the lies we were sold during Brexit—by Farage, Tice and their crowd—and yet they’re still lapping up everything they say. No critical thought, just blind anger pointed in the wrong direction.
I’m so fed up with the endless nonsense about small boats, “white minorities,” and all the rest of it. It’s all designed to divide us, stoke hate, and distract from the real culprits—rubbish politicians, broken policies, and the ultra-wealthy hoarding resources while the rest of us struggle.

But instead of looking upwards, it’s always “blame Johnny Foreigner.” It’s exhausting, and frankly terrifying how quickly people fall for it.

Is anyone else feeling this? How are you managing conversations when even close family seem to be buying into this stuff? I’m trying to stay compassionate, but it’s getting harder to bite my tongue.

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awkwardasfuck · 04/08/2025 21:59

This is how the third reich came to power

Nohqters · 04/08/2025 22:00

awkwardasfuck · 04/08/2025 21:59

This is how the third reich came to power

Exactly. Amazing how quickly people forget history and fall for the same crap. It's easy to see how Nazis came to power.

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Nohqters · 04/08/2025 22:02

You just have to look at the US right now to see fascism in full swing.

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awkwardasfuck · 04/08/2025 22:04

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/amibeingunreasonable/5383182-immigration-population-up-another-700k?utmcampaign=thread&utmmedium=app_share
You only have to look here

The playbook in full swing

Economic downturn, blame minorities, incite pogroms.

millymollymoomoo · 04/08/2025 22:07

Perhaps just look at the crime stats and the actual costs associated. Fed up of the racist card thrown out all the time instead of having rationale debate about social and economic impact of taking in tens of thousands of illegals and nearly a million legal immigrants a year !

VashtaNerada · 04/08/2025 22:07

I completely agree. I’m a teacher and I’ve seen a resurgence in children using the ‘n’ word as a slur. Absolutely shocking. Luckily, my immediate family are sensible but if more distant relatives start to spout crap I just try to gently give another opinion (eg “That’s interesting, I’ve definitely not seen that at work where most of my colleagues are Muslim. In fact, quite the opposite…”)

Nohqters · 04/08/2025 22:07

awkwardasfuck · 04/08/2025 22:04

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/amibeingunreasonable/5383182-immigration-population-up-another-700k?utmcampaign=thread&utmmedium=app_share
You only have to look here

The playbook in full swing

Economic downturn, blame minorities, incite pogroms.

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Yes I've seen more of these threads lately and it's depressing.

Net migration is up a lot since Brexit. Farage told us Brexit would give us back control of borders yet Immigration has gone up!!! It was all lies yet all people do is keep blaming the foreigners not the politicians

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Nohqters · 04/08/2025 22:11

millymollymoomoo · 04/08/2025 22:07

Perhaps just look at the crime stats and the actual costs associated. Fed up of the racist card thrown out all the time instead of having rationale debate about social and economic impact of taking in tens of thousands of illegals and nearly a million legal immigrants a year !

Perhaps educate yourself, use critical thinking and stop swallowing every bit of dog-whistle politics you hear. There are plenty of criminals who are native born too.

And why has net migration gone up so much?? Because Brexit took away freedom of movement from British citizens so a lot less of us cant move abroad now and that makes numbers higher

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JMSA · 04/08/2025 22:11

Social Media (I only have FB) is insane at the moment. I comfort myself that the people commenting on a tabloid article aren’t going to be the brightest. But grown adults frothing at the mouth because children from Gaza will be brought here for urgent medical treatment.

Nohqters · 04/08/2025 22:13

JMSA · 04/08/2025 22:11

Social Media (I only have FB) is insane at the moment. I comfort myself that the people commenting on a tabloid article aren’t going to be the brightest. But grown adults frothing at the mouth because children from Gaza will be brought here for urgent medical treatment.

I think social media caused a lot of it tbh. Back in the day these views were frowned on, social media has turned them into click bait and ways for right wing loons to get followers so it spreads.

I'm also sure there are organisations out there putting hateful content out en masses to manipulate the population and cause chaos so people think parties like Reform are the only option

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zeddybrek · 04/08/2025 22:13

The rich are getting richer and don't want attention so blaming the minority is far easier. So much greed driving up the cost of living, tax structure designed to benefit the most wealthy, the poorest suffer and need a scapegoat.

It's ridiculous so much media cover is given to illegal immigrants when the number of legal migration is significantly higher. For example about 150,000 people have come to to UK from Hong Kong alone since 2021. The final figure is expected to be around 300,000. The figure for overall legal migration is so much higher.

It seems like something of it of a movie, get the poorest in society fighting amongst each other while we grow our wealth quietly in the background.

Have people forgotten how millions of pounds of contracts were handed out by Boris Johnson to his friends during the pandemic. How Brexit has been a spectacular failure. There is a problem and it's definitely not the illegal immigrants, it's the wealthy getting greedier.

Anyway I agree OP and try to engage in discussions with facts. Not that anyone wants to listen to actual data. I live in my tiny bubble and try not to read the news and have deleted all social media except MN.

Dangermoo · 04/08/2025 22:14

Nohqters · 04/08/2025 22:11

Perhaps educate yourself, use critical thinking and stop swallowing every bit of dog-whistle politics you hear. There are plenty of criminals who are native born too.

And why has net migration gone up so much?? Because Brexit took away freedom of movement from British citizens so a lot less of us cant move abroad now and that makes numbers higher

Critical thinking? You've filled the bingo card up in your OP.

Daisy54 · 04/08/2025 22:15

I have stopped listening. Hate breeds hate and I want no part of it. It’s spiritually exhausting listening to hateful speech.

I change the subject and/or terminate the conversation.

ReplacementBusService · 04/08/2025 22:16

The racists have never gone away,they've just got their own news channel and their own leader in a suit so you hear a lot from them. Apparently we are going to have a civil war and everything, not quite sure who is getting involved or if they have to overthrow the king or parliament or just smash up a branch of Aldi or what.

Nohqters · 04/08/2025 22:17

zeddybrek · 04/08/2025 22:13

The rich are getting richer and don't want attention so blaming the minority is far easier. So much greed driving up the cost of living, tax structure designed to benefit the most wealthy, the poorest suffer and need a scapegoat.

It's ridiculous so much media cover is given to illegal immigrants when the number of legal migration is significantly higher. For example about 150,000 people have come to to UK from Hong Kong alone since 2021. The final figure is expected to be around 300,000. The figure for overall legal migration is so much higher.

It seems like something of it of a movie, get the poorest in society fighting amongst each other while we grow our wealth quietly in the background.

Have people forgotten how millions of pounds of contracts were handed out by Boris Johnson to his friends during the pandemic. How Brexit has been a spectacular failure. There is a problem and it's definitely not the illegal immigrants, it's the wealthy getting greedier.

Anyway I agree OP and try to engage in discussions with facts. Not that anyone wants to listen to actual data. I live in my tiny bubble and try not to read the news and have deleted all social media except MN.

You articulate it so well. Thank God there are still sensible like-minded people out there who don't fall for all the right wing nonsense.

It's a wise idea to switch off from socials. I think I'll have to do that as the level of ignorance on display is too much

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JamesMacGill · 04/08/2025 22:17

It’s probably because a 12 year old girl has just been kidnapped, raped and strangled by 2 ‘asylum seekers’ who were allowed to be here through our ridiculous asylum rules. And that comes off the back of the rape, sexual assault and even murder of other women by men of the same profile.

Tensions have been boiling over for months, and I blame the governments of the last 10 years for allowing it to get to this point.

I’m truly sorry to hear of any racism toward decent hard working immigrants. Appalling.

Nchangeo · 04/08/2025 22:18

buying into this stuff

Your clearly are so far not affected so why not just be grateful for that.

JamesMacGill · 04/08/2025 22:18

It's ridiculous so much media cover is given to illegal immigrants when the number of legal migration is significantly higher. For example about 150,000 people have come to to UK from Hong Kong alone since 2021.

How many immigrants from Hong Kong have raped or murdered women since arriving?

skymagentatwo · 04/08/2025 22:19

Oh look another liberal left wing break down thread 😭

Get a grip, people no longer are bowing to the woke tidal wave that drowned out common sense and pride years ago.

yeahhhhmate · 04/08/2025 22:20

JMSA · 04/08/2025 22:11

Social Media (I only have FB) is insane at the moment. I comfort myself that the people commenting on a tabloid article aren’t going to be the brightest. But grown adults frothing at the mouth because children from Gaza will be brought here for urgent medical treatment.

brotish citizens are dying because of the wait times for urgent medical treatments. The NHS doesn't have capacity for all of us. Let alone sadly for people from Gaza.

I see both perspectives. I don't know what the answer is.

PurpleAxe · 04/08/2025 22:22

Nohqters · 04/08/2025 22:11

Perhaps educate yourself, use critical thinking and stop swallowing every bit of dog-whistle politics you hear. There are plenty of criminals who are native born too.

And why has net migration gone up so much?? Because Brexit took away freedom of movement from British citizens so a lot less of us cant move abroad now and that makes numbers higher

It has been brewing for years.

And for years, responses like this to reasonable concerns about crime, and immigration levels have been pushing people just a little bit further.

A nudge here, a push there. A 'shut up, you stupid racist' to someone who asks a question.

And here we are. Enjoy.

Nevertrustacop · 04/08/2025 22:22

This is really unhelpful.
In one tiny paragraphs you have managed to call people who disagree with you uneducated, lacking uncritical thinking and gullible to dog whistles.
It's almost as if you think the way to change people's minds is to piss them off.

Hm17 · 04/08/2025 22:23

Wasn’t a woman working at a hotel housing asylum seekers murdered last year? By an asylum seeker? Do you just ignore the fact that the people coming on small boats are vast majority male?

awkwardasfuck · 04/08/2025 22:23

JamesMacGill · 04/08/2025 22:17

It’s probably because a 12 year old girl has just been kidnapped, raped and strangled by 2 ‘asylum seekers’ who were allowed to be here through our ridiculous asylum rules. And that comes off the back of the rape, sexual assault and even murder of other women by men of the same profile.

Tensions have been boiling over for months, and I blame the governments of the last 10 years for allowing it to get to this point.

I’m truly sorry to hear of any racism toward decent hard working immigrants. Appalling.

It's the lack of intelligence. We elect white rape apologists.

I'm brown, and was born here. Never claimed a benefit in my life. Don't even have kids. Work a public serving job that required me to spend a lot of money on education and pay a lot of tax. But im frequently told to go back to where I came from (Bedfordshire) or asked if I support child rape.

My husband was born in Africa and came here to escape apartheid violence but he's white. People move out of his way and talk to him about protecting British values and ask him if he thinks immigrants should be sent home.

VashtaNerada · 04/08/2025 22:23

@yeahhhhmate the answer is for the government to invest in the NHS and bring it back to what it once was. We all should have excellent healthcare including anyone new to our country. We’ve done it before.

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