I have rejoined just to ask this question.

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Why are some members of this site allowed to get away with persistently being vile, pushing an agenda, defending the indefensible, upsetting other members, twisting versions of events and generally being nasty, and they do not get banned?

Not about any one particular poster, but I have noticed that some stronger "personalities" on here seem to be Teflon coated.

Why is this?

Why do the owners of this site want that kind of vile poster and do not seem to care about the number of truly decent kind posters who are being upset and driven off the site?

I don't know who the snake was in the situation I think you are referring to SGM.

But I do know that I personally was hounded and attacked on here.

And that HQ were woefully slow to respond to reports. And even slower to do anything.

And that I left as a result.

And I know I am not the only one.

And I think there is a real issue that HQ need to address which is - what sort of site do you want? What type of site do you want to be?

Because if it's "supportive to parents" then you need to look long and hard at some posters and their posting style and take a stand and sort it.

"Questioning someone for saying blue is their fave colour when their nickname is RedRedI'mAllAboutRed is fair enough.
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solid I agree. If people are daft enough to link their FB and MN persona, and talk about things they don't want made public then that is their look out.

I have no idea what has gone on with FWR. All I see is that unless you toe the extreme line your feminism isn't considered 'good enough', so I stay away.

I do have to agree that MN can't be responsible for FB rucks. They provide us with anonymity and the means to involve ourselves as much or as little with the community here as we wish. If we choose to give away more than that, then that is up to us.

But Alibaba that's a problem.

"unless you toe the extreme line your feminism isn't considered 'good enough', so I stay away."

What are you going to actually DO about that HQ?

@hathorisaskingaquestion

SGB but they can be held responsible for what happens here.

And they are very very slow to respond to reports.

And even slower to do something.

which breeds ill-feeling and hurt.

Hathor - know you've been away for a bit but we have been having probs with email in the last couple of weeks HQ stuff of nightmares

On the contrary we are usually this last couple of weeks notwithstanding, very quick to reply to reports, even if all we say is that we are looking into something because the secret service does not comment on procedure.

We are absolutely not about breeding ill feeling or hurt.

Am leaving thread for a bit now as Helen is "on the case" and I have filthy children who need bathing but HTH

As stuggle to understand FB I might be well off the mark with this, but if one kept ones MN NN and ones RL real name seperate, then this could not happen, yes?
Or namechange on MN so no further hounding is possible?
I know it can be upsetting to lose a longstanding much-loved name, however that looks to me like the lesser evil.

I think it is probably not fair to say that all the FWR posters are hardliners.

I have posted bollocks on there for years and have rarely been chewed out - rather the opposite, lots of very supportive and kind FWR regulars.

hathor - but in some ways, does it matter? It is only a forum, there are other places to discuss these things.

Well, Olivia, like it or lump it, HQ's attitude has been breeding ill-feeling and hurt.

Pacific - precisely. People need to learn to be more circumspect IMO.

Vicious attacking and vile posts don't matter then Alibaba, because it's only a forum? Breaking the law, insulting other groups, personal attacks on other posters, they don't matter because it's only a forum?

Wonder if the advertisers feel like that?

Or the HQ staffers when they get their wages?

The HQ staffers do probably feel quite depressed when they get their wages, I'll give you that much.

The point is usualsuspect,that you can take it,I can take it,scottishmummy and a whole bunch of other people can take it.But there are hundreds who cant,who join MN and then leave.Now MN may still survive,but what will it survive as?

I must say I am pleased I am not on FB.

what's FWR?

@hathorisaskingaquestion

Vicious attacking and vile posts don't matter then Alibaba, because it's only a forum? Breaking the law, insulting other groups, personal attacks on other posters, they don't matter because it's only a forum?

Wonder if the advertisers feel like that?

Or the HQ staffers when they get their wages?

But they do matter, of course they do. Because they break our Talk Guidelines. And will be deleted when they're brought to our attention. End of.

Feminism and Women's Rights Germy

Mn say they are very quick to reply to reports Depends what they call quick.I think mine was at least 12 hours.
We could all time them.Dont know if I can be personally bothered,but others could if they were bothered.

But the same posters keep on posting the same stuff and they're allowed to Helen.

Over and over and over.

If that's true then what'll happen is the strongest meanest people will survive, and everybody else will go to net(shudder)mums.
Darwinian law innit.

at Queen Turd of Shit Hill

I am nicking that.

And that's the thing Amillion. I reported. I waited days. Literally days.

And then all I got back was a pat "you'll have to trust us to deal with this"

Well, actually HQ I don't know that I do trust you to deal with it.

Not on the evidence so far.