I have rejoined just to ask this question.

[hathorisaskingaquestion]

Why are some members of this site allowed to get away with persistently being vile, pushing an agenda, defending the indefensible, upsetting other members, twisting versions of events and generally being nasty, and they do not get banned?

Not about any one particular poster, but I have noticed that some stronger "personalities" on here seem to be Teflon coated.

Why is this?

Why do the owners of this site want that kind of vile poster and do not seem to care about the number of truly decent kind posters who are being upset and driven off the site?

I am doomed to be a lowly rabbit dropping forever

Perhaps this might be the moment to repost Justine's post from t'other day (not all of it is strictly relevant to this thread but we're not really in the business of partial editing):

"Ok so suffice to say, none of this is edifying or in the spirit of MN but although it makes very painful reading (and apologies for late intervention but I've only just got to the end of it) it probably is for the best that this has all been spewed out as it is clear that there is an awful lot of background to why the FWR board has not been the welcoming place most Mumsnetters would like it to be.

"Of course folks are going to have private groups where they can reveal personal details but private groups to discuss Mumsnetters are never going to end well and when leaks occur, as they have a tendency to do, they can cause hurt, mistrust and paranoia.

"I'm going to lock this thread now by maxing the number of posts and we will think about the what next in the morning. We'll put up the new topics as suggested though they do feel a wee bit like fiddling while Rome burns now all this has emerged. Someone suggested that the way forward is for more feminism discussion (of the tolerant and supportive kind) and the sooner we can move onto that and away from the recrimination the sooner things will move on imho.

"It probably also makes sense for some of those really caught up in the unpleasantness to have a think about whether a break from MN might be a good thing. We'll be back tomorrow, night all."

Are you talking about the cutworms group?

I would never advise a friend of mine to come on here! I still post as I have learnt to got used to and expect the bitchiness, but I have had a couple of flamings for very innocent posts at vulnerable times that really did upset me. So I would never recommend mumsnet to a real life friend.

I think a break from talking to anyone would be more helpful in some cases. Go a bit monky.

But it's not just about that Helen.

None of that is actually DOING anything about it.

The vile horrible people who seem to be Teflon will be back. And they will be allowed to do the same things all over again.

And tbh reporting feels a bit pointless to me.

The post gets deleted, but the attitude doesn't.

@hathorisaskingaquestion

And that's the thing Amillion. I reported. I waited days. Literally days.

And then all I got back was a pat "you'll have to trust us to deal with this"

Well, actually HQ I don't know that I do trust you to deal with it.

Not on the evidence so far.

We're sorry to hear that, hath. But, as we told you in our mail, we can't reveal to posters any details of our dealings with another poster.

Me, no, not cuntworms.

Poor BoF the bunny poop.

I think this is a bit different to getting roasted in a flaming AIBU though, isn't it?

Monky? Monkish? Not like Gandhi anyway. Gandhi was a bastard.

@hathorisaskingaquestion

But it's not just about that Helen.

None of that is actually DOING anything about it.

The vile horrible people who seem to be Teflon will be back. And they will be allowed to do the same things all over again.

And tbh reporting feels a bit pointless to me.

The post gets deleted, but the attitude doesn't.

But just because we can't tell you what we're doing, it doesn't mean we're not doing it.

Helen I understand that.

But maybe you should be more open in what the steps are that lead to a ban? Or something?

I don't know, I don't have the answers. That's for HQ to figure out. But can't you see that you are driving lots of long-standing MNetters away with the lack of action on the vile posts (not just FWR BTW)?

See, I think there are enough funny, thoughtful, interesting people on here who will NOT allow the cunts to take over.
Bullies exist everywhere - that's not right, nor nice, nor something that should be ignored, but I cannot see this place becoming filled with only horrible posters. And if it were to turn into NetHuns, I'll cry

I don't mind a roasting in an AIBU. I've had them, I've sucked them up.

That's not what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about, for example, a falling out in a thread with me (as an example) leading to vocal posters hunting me across the boards and attacking every post I made.

And banging on and on relentlessly on one agenda and never ever giving anything of themselves.

Despite some of the flamings I have got on here, the support and kindness I have recieved from a load of strangers has far outweighed any rows. This is a very supportive place in teh main.

Look at the Aillidh threads, and babyheaves, and trinity when she had crises, and the blankets. There is a lot of good here.

Oh Boffy whatever has happened now?

Will it never end

And, of course, then there's the suckups

I know. I will have to tell you all to go fuck yourselves now to restore my reputation.

it's all going ot be better from now on Hath.

We are all going forwards intot he light.

(Boffy, what's ahppened now..?)

I don't really see why anyone who wasn't involved in the FB FUBAR is bothered by what happened TBH.

It was all played out on a thread (which has now disappeared) and that should be the end of it.

I'm sure that the people who did wrong will leave those who were wronged alone from now on and that's just great. Should any wronguns start shouting the odds again then they'll be dealt with, I'm sure.