SNP supporters and the hate crime bill

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Scottish government are passing a bill tonight that will give hate crime protection to every protected characteristic - apart from sex. Yes, women apparently don't register as far as hate crimes go.

But cross dressers will be protected so that's fine - don't insult a man in a kilt even in your own home, as you could be arrested. However, every day misogyny - that's fine.

SNP supporters - are you ok with this????

A man in a kilt is a 'cross dresser.' 🙈 I take it you're not Scottish..

We lost. Cross dressers more important than all the women and girls in Scotland

Cheers for that yousaf. And Patrick Harvie

Thanks

The sheer misogyny on display tonight - shameful

Yep exactly

Is it really going to pass. I had hoped sanity would prevail

Mr harvie

Passed

I left the party about a year ago because of their stance on woman.

It's fucking disgusting. I emailed everyone I could think of and only had a response from the Conservatives.

Yousaf. Storm coming

Omg. I have 2 daughters. I don't even have words

Weird isn’t it.

Only men can cross dress and be protected.

Yet those of us women wearing trousers. Are we cross dressers ?

Are we protected.

So all women have to do is wear trousers then we are protected

Fucking bonkers

Please can you publicise this as widely as possible, before the May election, so every female voter in Scotland is made fully aware that the SNP don’t give a shit about us.

@Babdoc I am more than happy to. I just don't really know how to. Any time I tried to talk about it with people I get accused of being transphobic. Ironically the men in my life seem as horrified as I do but don't believe it to be true. Any tips I'm happy to share as wide as I can

Another nail in the coffin of our hard earned rights.

I am sick to the back teeth of this. This wasn't even needed. Just another pandering to activist groups.

I have done it on Twitter.

Just speak to your families and friends

A cross dresser male person is more protected than a woman or girl now in Scotland

Let them know that SNP value a male cross dresser more than your mum your auntie your sis your grandma

We are not valued by the SNP. Or the Green Party

Depressing.

From the standard of contributions, I'd say most of the chamber have a real lack of awareness of what the real issues are here. They will not know that by far most "transgender" people are intact, that there's a huge surge in transgender identification in adolescent girls, that this whole issue is being owned by those with dubious motives. As for Humza Yousaf - he has not got a fucking clue what he's talking about. Not a clue. I was embarrassed for him.

However, one bit of cheer is the sheer power of Johann Lamont, Joan McAlpine and Elaine Smith. They were fabulous. (worried about Joan now - she will have done herself no favours with the party hierarchy)

www.engender.org.uk/news/blog/scottish-government-hate-crime-bill-published/

The recommendation ( see detail in link) is that to be effective , sex based hate shouldn't be tabbed onto the end of the Hate Crime Bill.

There should be a separate, all encompasing Bill on misogyny and it should follow the gold standard Domestic Abuse Bill ie it must cover the diverse methods through which women experience harassment.

Fucking unbelievable! Fucking unbelievable.

Thanks @littlbrowndog that's basically the route I have been going down. Can we find the record of who voted for it yet or will that come later?

As for SNP supporters they will no doubt be quiet on this thread.

I stand corrected @StarryEyeSurprise is here in defence. I wonder when they will get round to dealing with that bill considering they can't deal with sexual harassment in their own party.

Endgender don’t work for women

They work for anyone that identifies as a women

Government funded have to toe the line

www.engender.org.uk/content/publications/Making-Women-Safer-in-Scotland---the-case-for-a-standalone-misogyny-offence.pdf

This gives the reasons for a standalone misogyny Bill.

It would cover harassment in the workplace, street, school and other places and explicitly cover situations like pick up artists harassing women. It would also need to be, like the Domestic Abuse Bill, be evidence based. Hence the need for longer consultation.

I would like this in place ASAP but it is being worked on.

Why on earth are we throwing away the rights of 50 percent of the population for a tiny percentage of people?!

Sorry starry.

How long has this being worked on ?

I believe robin harper from greens asked for this many years ago

Why is it so difficult for women and girls to be protected when a cross dresser man can be