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Views on Andrew Tate?

222 replies

Uktousa2022 · 07/06/2023 20:48

For those who have actually watched his videos etc. Could you actually be with someone like that?

OP posts:
TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 13:15

I would suspect you are very young

You'd suspect utterly wrongly.

Thanks for the mansplaining lecture though .... You seem to have missed the point on several fronts.

OrangeAutumn · 08/06/2023 13:17

She may be climaxing when away from him as well, increasing the attachment.

Best to go cold Turkey OP.

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 13:18

And just why do you "need" to be on female dominated sites; you have a hundred male dominated ones to be on. Why do you have to be in predominantly female spaces, mansplaining traditional households setups to us.

Only traditional for baby boomers and relatively well off people of course.
Not during Victorian times, not for the poor.

monsteramunch · 08/06/2023 13:19

OrangeAutumn · 08/06/2023 13:12

Why do keep staying in contact with him, presumably shagging him, and making threads about him?

Orgasm addiction she associates with him?

I highly doubt he's a great shag.

Newbutoldfather · 08/06/2023 13:19

@TheoTheopolis23 ,

‘Mansplaining’

And that is exactly why Tate appeals to young males…

monsteramunch · 08/06/2023 13:21

Do you really not think that the phenomenon that can be neatly described as 'mansplaining' is a real thing @Newbutoldfather?

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 13:22

Newbutoldfather · 08/06/2023 13:19

@TheoTheopolis23 ,

‘Mansplaining’

And that is exactly why Tate appeals to young males…

You believe you weren't??

Lol

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 13:24

And that is exactly why Tate appeals to young males…

He appears to males because women dare to gave an opinion or criticise men .... Yep.

He also appeals to them because a significant portion of men have always been and wilmalways be completely alienated from women - from within - regard them as objects and conquests and possessions.... And cannot/will not have an equal fair relationship with them.

They enjoy dominating the , they enjoy degrading them, they enjoy having power over them.

That's why he appeals.

Not because I called you out on mansplaining.

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 13:25

*dare to have an opinion

OrangeAutumn · 08/06/2023 13:26

This is the thing, the Women who had it the best were boomer women, they could afford to enjoy their children at home with a career break, they had other SAHMs for company within walking distance.

Now we have issues of increased childhood mental health issues and social issues.

Some women today have to work as wage slaves who would prefer to care for their own children, home still needs attention as do children, while other women care for their children and clean their home, they can't enjoy them (the cleaner may spend as much time awake in the beautiful home on a work day as the woman who owns it) they can't have the same lifestyle their mother's generation had on one salary.

Newbutoldfather · 08/06/2023 13:28

@TheoTheopolis23,

I was putting my opinion. What has my sex got to do with it?

Mansplaining is a condescending sexist word. How could it not be? It is the same as a man calling a woman ‘screechy’ in her opinions.

You don’t agree with me, absolutely fine. Ideally say why, rather than an ad hominem attach. You don’t like my style of posting, also fine (although it would be a boring forum if people critiqued one another’s styles all the time.

Just being boringly sexist, though, you won’t win any arguments.

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 13:31

AT can bullshit all day about women being happy, relaxed, kept women but the reality is that he's exploitative and violent towards women, with evidence.

Power, dominance, advantage and control is what lies underneath the fluff of "women stay at home" philosophy.

Oh and that's being "feminine" - pity noone declared being feminine had to mean women should stay at home and be looked after when women were working (50% of Victorian women) outside the home in back breaking domestic service, eye wrecking sewing, gutting fish, working in the fields (noone ever knows about that in red pill land .... Women never did agricultural work in red pill land), working in hazardous factory jobs etc etc. We're they not feminine?

I've seen them working in the fields in African countries with babies tied to their backs ...... Are they not "feminine"?

Screamingabdabz · 08/06/2023 13:31

If the existence of this Tate fella and his army of horny teenage-brain halfwit followers wasn’t bad enough, it looks like his incel rhetoric speaks to some dumbshit thicko women too. Can’t believe some women are on here defending his views.

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 13:33

I was putting my opinion. What has my sex got to do with it?

You were mansplaining to a woman you declared you suspected must be very young ..... About "traditional" household setups.

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 13:33

Screamingabdabz · 08/06/2023 13:31

If the existence of this Tate fella and his army of horny teenage-brain halfwit followers wasn’t bad enough, it looks like his incel rhetoric speaks to some dumbshit thicko women too. Can’t believe some women are on here defending his views.

😂

I love your turn of phrase.

TheHandmaiden · 08/06/2023 13:35

Let's not drift away from the fundamentals. Most people are not violent, so not speak violently or talk about the good things about controlling people.

Tate is that person. He enjoys control and taking about it with an undercurrent of violence.

This is really what he likes because it's the thing that may land him in prison.

Good people don't discuss being violent or controlling people and people who do are odd. They are outliers. If you have little experience of life it's possible you may not know this, like a teenage boy.

But anyone who has to live, work with others, earn money, and be in real world knows it.

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 13:35

Newbutoldfather · 08/06/2023 13:28

@TheoTheopolis23,

I was putting my opinion. What has my sex got to do with it?

Mansplaining is a condescending sexist word. How could it not be? It is the same as a man calling a woman ‘screechy’ in her opinions.

You don’t agree with me, absolutely fine. Ideally say why, rather than an ad hominem attach. You don’t like my style of posting, also fine (although it would be a boring forum if people critiqued one another’s styles all the time.

Just being boringly sexist, though, you won’t win any arguments.

Why do you feel the need to be on here?

Newbutoldfather · 08/06/2023 13:36

@TheoTheopolis23 ,

Why do you feel the need to be on here?

monsteramunch · 08/06/2023 13:41

@Newbutoldfather

Calling another poster's wording condescending after starting a post to them with "I would suspect you are very young" is a bit rich, mate.

OrangeAutumn · 08/06/2023 13:44

TheHandmaiden · 08/06/2023 13:35

Let's not drift away from the fundamentals. Most people are not violent, so not speak violently or talk about the good things about controlling people.

Tate is that person. He enjoys control and taking about it with an undercurrent of violence.

This is really what he likes because it's the thing that may land him in prison.

Good people don't discuss being violent or controlling people and people who do are odd. They are outliers. If you have little experience of life it's possible you may not know this, like a teenage boy.

But anyone who has to live, work with others, earn money, and be in real world knows it.

My experience of teachers is that control is an obsession for them, and not just students.

The same for people posting certain opinions on social media, there are plenty who want to control others around.

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 13:47

Newbutoldfather · 08/06/2023 13:36

@TheoTheopolis23 ,

Why do you feel the need to be on here?

To help other women with - mostly men's abuse .

This is clearly an almost entirely female populated forum with women seeking help, perspective and advice from people they expect to be entirely or almost entirely female.

I'm not the anomaly on here, you are.

Do you really think your opinion is needed when there are hundreds of women - who have experience and perspective you will never have (even if you have ever been a male victim of female abuse)?

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 13:48

monsteramunch · 08/06/2023 13:41

@Newbutoldfather

Calling another poster's wording condescending after starting a post to them with "I would suspect you are very young" is a bit rich, mate.

Lol

Nail on the head, as always.

Newbutoldfather · 08/06/2023 13:53

@TheoTheopolis23 ,

There are loads of men on here. It’s byline is ‘by parents, for parents’. I am a parent and started using this site more than a decade ago, asking about issues around my babies (as were).

My children are now Tate’s target audience and we discuss him a lot, so this thread is interesting to me.

I suggest that if you dislike any poster’s posting style, the best way to deal with it is to ignore them….advice I am about to take.

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 14:14

There are loads of men on here.

The majority of people are female, you're being deliberately obtuse.

Besides most of the men on here hang out on the sex topics, which says it all (usually trying to pick up women through them to boot).

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 14:15

Newbutoldfather · 08/06/2023 13:53

@TheoTheopolis23 ,

There are loads of men on here. It’s byline is ‘by parents, for parents’. I am a parent and started using this site more than a decade ago, asking about issues around my babies (as were).

My children are now Tate’s target audience and we discuss him a lot, so this thread is interesting to me.

I suggest that if you dislike any poster’s posting style, the best way to deal with it is to ignore them….advice I am about to take.

Great news.

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