Views on Andrew Tate?

[Uktousa2022]

For those who have actually watched his videos etc. Could you actually be with someone like that?

The advice hasn't changed.
Andrew Tate does not advocate for a relationship of equals, he advocates relationships with a complete power imbalance, and that is what you are in.

The motivation must be strong to control others, what a waste of life.

I am far too lazy, uninterested in others that way and an living my own life, being the star of my own show. Controlling people are directors of others making others the star in the life of the controlling person, they are not the star of their own life. The same with nosey gossips, they are extras, bit parts, nothings in their own life, making others the star, it's really a waste.

I was never inclined to manage people at work.

As a parent my motivation to help my children was to make life better for us both and I was glad when they became adults.

I don't own a dog or creature in a cage, again I don't feel the need to gain control of an animal, a free roaming cat is more my style of animal companionship.

The person in question says I prefer “push overs” and not “real men” when I challenge his views.

He's vile. Why on earth women want to be with him. Low self esteem, who knows.

When I have challenged him on this he says that I prefer push over men and not real men. Another comment he’s made is it’s usually a career or kids can’t have both. And that women are too concerned about “having a voice” when really they shouldn’t be because their man will take everything into consideration that they have said. It’s actually becoming amusing. That you can’t be equal to a leader. I honestly don’t know why this power thing is rated so highly in his eyes. There are other ways to show you respect someone not just obeying the. But oh wait “he doesn’t want women to obey just to LISTEN” apparently. Crazy.

He is misogynist pig ! That’s my view and off course I could never be with anyone like him

Don’t go near him!! You have a choice at this point. I’m over 20years into a relationship and multiple children. Also unfortunately a sahm due to medical issues and sen children. My partner has always been ‘difficult’ if I’m tbh, but from he’s discovered Andrew Tate and others like him he has become a full on misogynist woman hating asshole. He listens to this shit 24/7. If I or the kids disagree with him we are just screamed at. So many agree with him so his opinions must be right, right? It scary being a woman with a woman hater. I feel really trapped. I want out, but it’s not going to be easy in the situation i’m in.
I’m (fairly) sure there’s plenty of better men out there. Don’t choose this! Personally if I get out I’m staying single forever!

Very glad to hear that.

Now you need to stop communicating with him and move on.

There is no point debating with a man like him.

I use the word man loosely.

@OrangeAutumn - I think we have a similar outlook. I am happy when the cat returns, it is his choice.

A lot of people have very bad childhoods. They seek control or abdicate responsibility for themselves and give it to others.

I think they are very unhappy. Tate is an angry person, and so too are the people who follow him.

I think men are getting confused because he is making them seem powerful but it’s at the expense of women - they he plays it off like they are protecting women and doing it for their own good. Keeping them safe indoors.

Mate.

Drug taking.
Animal neglect.
Misogyny.
Sexism.
Stupidity (believing his dog, who has killed another dog before, wouldn't hurt a potential future child of yours as it would 'know' it's part of him 🙄).

Even if you're staying with your brother, why on earth are you still speaking to this man let alone remaining in a relationship with him?!

You've started multiple threads about him which is of course your prerogative, your choice.

But doesn't that tell you that your gut is screaming out to you to break up with him?

How you can claim to be an animal lover and be with a man who is so neglectful of his own is baffling.

It’s actually becoming amusing

When then laugh and forget about him.

Why are you bothering to continue to interact with (and shag?) someone who's extreme views are so unreasonable they're "amusing".

Why are you wasting your time. You want kids I think and you're in your 30s.

It’s actually becoming amusing.

How is it amusing to listen to a man who outright told you a week or two ago, to your face, that he doesn't believe men and women are equals?

Don't you want more from your life than wasting time on such an arsehole?

You want kids eventually if I recall correctly. So by staying with him you're either going to inflict a sexist pig on a child or have to miss out on having kids if you don't want to inflict him on them?

Yes.

And you see through it.

Your hopefully ex is too stupid to see through it ... Or doesn't want to.

That says everything about him.

You want kids, he's not a suitable candidate. Time is of the essence.

Why are you wasting it listening to his bleating?

Go and meet someone better.

Check out "another White boy with a podcast". That's Tate and all his little inadequates.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=EHlczKlmIDM

So sorry to hear this. Praying that you find a way to get out. There is light at the end of the tunnel!! Has he always been like this? Andrew Tate disguises it so well because he sells it like he’s doing the greater good for women, and it makes men feel powerful.

And you're moving countries to be with this absolute cunt because...?

Andrew Tate disguises it so well because he sells it like he’s doing the greater good for women

He also boasted about conning women into doing sex cam work for his sex cam company and getting away with breaking a woman's jaw in some kind of fight. His activities have led to warrants for arrest and investigations for rapes and sex trafficking.

And you listened to any of that?
His comment about "push over men" and "not real men" outlines his own anxiety about not being a man who is capable of having a relationship of equity with a woman. It's quite telling that the idea makes him Big Mad.

Of course it isn't a "career or kids" dichotomy. Millions of women have both, and of course he'll reject statistical, empirical and anecdotal proof of this. Once again, this scenario requires a strong man capable of contributing to a relationship, not a whiny pseudo-man who can only relate to a woman through control.

"You can't be equal to a leader" shows he misunderstands the concept of leadership entirely. You don't become or remain a leader by setting yourself above everyone else; for one, you have to earn the position, not just demand that you be treated that way. But this person you're referring to isn't capable of understanding that, because they're focused on power and not the actual responsibility of leadership. You don't get there by demanding it, you get there by demonstrating your effectiveness and capacity for good decision making - qualities he demonstrably lacks.

This is the other side of seeing women as objects, possessions, and subjects.

Not advertising that side so clearly though, is he.

Andrew Tate disguises it so well because he sells it like he’s doing the greater good for women, and it makes men feel powerful.

Andrew Tate doesn't disguise anything. The only people buying it are the ones that lack critical thinking skills.

So you are doing an observational study of a man who's so afraid of being labelled a "pushover" that he acts in an exaggeratedly aggressively manner, to "prove" he can't be?
I'd presume that he was mirroring similar behaviour from his dad, and/or had been severely bullied in school. Very sad, but something he would need to deal with himself, through therapy.

Interesting that he's importing you from the UK. I've seen insecure, controlling men do this before - the woman is cut off from her family and in an environment where she's more reliant on him. He knows how the system works, she can't judge so easily whether he is normal or not. She might not be able to develop her intended career. I wonder if it's a deliberate, planned strategy, or if they just stumble upon it and realise how much easier foreign women are to manipulate.

I have never come across anyone who has not got problems in their family or anyone who had no childhood adversity, the adversity will feel dreadful as it's the worst they experienced.

I think it's more about character and choices. Life seems like a play, with costumes for work and events each with their own script. The more exploitative a person the more extroverted they are in my opinion as like Tate they need resources and people so roam for that reason.

Extroverts want to make it normal and shame introverts into the public spaces so they can exploit.

Where would Tate be without school boys and young women?

I wonder if it's a deliberate, planned strategy, or if they just stumble upon it and realise how much easier foreign women are to manipulate.

Red pillers have long advocated sourcing foreign wives from third world countries and countries with male dominant culture because western women have been ",ruined" by feminism and liberal democracy.

The same guys generally believe the vote should be removed from women.

Similar views about working outside the home.

Roosh v believes that women who go into an indoor or in any way private space with men should not be able make a rape claim - because it cannot be rape when she's voluntarily entered the same space as the man.

They also believe women should not have equal rights to men because they did not serve in the military.

The men themselves have usually not served in the military.

The fact that women were not allowed to serve in the military until very recently is somehow ignored.

The women who served in military auxiliary services (and were sometimes killed and injured doing it) are also somehow ignored.

The same men - if national service including women were introduced - like in Israel - would doubtless object to women being included, and say it's not their role etc.