Views on Andrew Tate?

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For those who have actually watched his videos etc. Could you actually be with someone like that?

My children are now Tate’s target audience and we discuss him a lot, so this thread is interesting to

Oh ABC this thread isn't really about AT ...
Its not a general AT thread. It entirely related to this poster's ongoing issues in a relationship with an abuser.
Which you'd know if you were paying attention and really trying to help someone who clearly needs it.

*and, not ABC 🙄

Op, I hope you don't waste any more of your time debating with this "man".

If you'd really like to have kids, get out there and do your utmost to meet someone else. This is not going to be a good reason or context for a family.

*good relationship

Inferior males have only ever been able to feel good about themselves by controlling someone else, usually women. They have an extremely long history of it, it’s nothing new.
Any man who spends his time dictating how women should behave, is a weak, little twat in my book, Tate is just the latest chinless king of the runts.

He is in prison for alleged rape and human trafficking

Schools have been asked to do lessons in misogyny because of him

Interesting you are trying to call him neuro divergent etc

He is an evil twerp like your boyfriend who also may have " issues" but it's not a girlfriends job to heal and give therapy y to partners

Dump him do t put up with it any longer

Can you explain how inequality made relationships better, and for who? Are you suggesting women were happier when their husbands had a right to rape, beat and control them for some reason? Why are women happier and better off being treated as second class, in your view?

i wouldn’t date someone like him because he seems very ‘high maintenance’ however his basic consensus is about teaching men to be
strong, work hard, keep fit, and to be providers to the women in their lives. He also believes in traditional homes with women nurturing and caring for the family and men being the protectors. He believes women shouldn’t have to worry about anything and that it’s their jobs to be the happy feminine element in the relationship and that the man should take on all the stress and worry. I personally don’t see how his ideas about life are wrong.

You don't see how those ideas are wrong?! Well I'm afraid that's a you problem. Most of us don't live in the dark ages. Happy feminine element

Indeed, most of us don’t dream of being infantilised and reduced to a domestic appliance by a controlling, insecure twat, but each to their own.

I watched his bbc interview having never heard of him and was impressed with his handling of the interview. BBC “journalism” has a lot to answer for.

Looking him up afterwards led me to him on video talking about the time he fake proposed to a girl, maintaining that was the happiest moment of her life. It made me feel a physical reaction of sickness in my stomach. Definitely a narcissist. Definitely dangerous to women.

That's not a disguise at all though is it. He's not even disguising it.

It's him actually saying to your face that women are second class citizens. That they should be on a pedestal and as such aspire to unachievable behaviour - if the woman fails to meet expectations she will find herself ditched or punished.

He's explicitly saying a woman should be at home and not work outside of the home. They should be domestic servants, financially dependent on a man. They should do as they are told and not have their own opinions.

That is bare faced, broad as brass misogyny.

I hear my father's voice there......"a woman's place is in the home" "Women are only here for mens' pleasure'

How can you see this as a disguise?

He's as rough as a bears' backside and a danger to women

I watched his bbc interview having never heard of him and was impressed with his handling of the interview. BBC “journalism” has a lot to answer for.

Really? What I saw was an interviewer refusing to be bullied and refusing to accept being harangued by a man who was clearly trying to dominate her and talk over her. He didn't answer any of her questions, he was rude and dismissive, he completely failed to address any of the issues raised in the interview. If that impresses you, you're part of the problem.

On the money as usual.

They fundamentally want to control access to sex and also control reproduction (make sure if any genes are being passed on, it's theirs and not some other man's).

They don't get that level of control in an equal relationship. That would require compromise and risk and acknowledging the woman has rights. They don't like that.

I dated this type once - after 3 months the "I wouldn't go out without my partner, only single people should be going out without their partner" started, and continued (in spite of reasoning with him) for months until I ended the relationship. He was also advocating for me to start a small business in an outhouse of his house (this, I realised after, getting me out of the workplace and under his nose at work too).

When discussing the difficulty of meeting new partners after typical settling age (mid 30s up) I mentioned that a divorced man who attended a sports club I attended (and rarely did by the time I was seeing him) had made overtures but that I was not really interested in getting involved for various reasons. I have never seen a look of rage like I saw on that man's face at that time. Just sheer unadulterated rage. That some other man who was interested in "his" woman was around ... And I from experience that he was trying so hard not to say that I was at fault if I had continued attending that club after I started seeing him. I should have given up my hobby because a man there had been interested in me and I was now seeing him.

He had 4 failed relationships leading up to me and I have a feeling a few more since. Will he ever change his values and motivations and behaviour though; fuck no.

Surely that isn't a real question OP?

Tate isn't even real, he's playing a vile character to make millions from incels.
I don't doubt that he believes his own hype though.

The less people talk about him, the better.

I was in Tesco a couple of weeks ago and a young lad ( i guessed around 13 ) stopped me and asked me what I thought of Andrew Tate.

No right to refuse sex/no marital rape and no right to divorce for infidelity until long after men.

So men could cheat with prostitutes or non prostitutes and infect their wives with stds like syphilis - and the woman had no right to refuse sex and no recourse for marital rape (which didnt exist).

The researchers on who do you think you are said they can recognise syphilis in families before antibiotics etc easily from the patterns - infant death, infant deafness and other conditions. If women were expected to be virgins at marriage or marry the first and only partner; who was bringing in the syphilis? There were hundreds of thousands of prostitutes servicing men,working in Victorian London for example ... I wonder who.

Yeah, the good old days.

*"Who do you think you are".

I'm intrigued about why he arrived at having this persona. I mean it makes money, but why this way of earning a crust.

He's very funny if you don't take him seriously. A caricature of a selfish sexist pig git, Alan Partridge like.

His (mostly single parenting) mum raised him & siblings in a lower income area. His sister is a family law lawyer. His dad was a chess prodigy & dealt with Jim Crow laws in youth. He grew up multi-cultural. His mum seems grounded & sensible. His female relatives keep a non-public profile; sister's husband seems cool. So why did AT & TT turn out like they did? It's totally bizarre.

That poor sister at Christmas bet she has lots of excuses to avoid her twattish brothers

i just read your first comment and I also to a degree find some of the stuff he does say interesting, sometimes he has a point but then he goes and ruins it by saying something sexist or degrogirtory to women. I do think he believes in the old fashion women stay at home and men work mentality, but I think that ‘power’ in the hands of a potentially controlling man could have bad consequences. I also think this day and age it’s very hard to have a comfortable life one one salary so resentment may grow. Can I ask how your kids see him? There views?

Maybe not so much a disguise as such but if you watch more of his videos he every now and then throws in a comment like “women are better than men they can have kids that’s amazing they need to be looked after” and “my woman will be taken care off” and “men need to die for there family” etc etc and the women in the interviews with him seem to fall weak at the knees I mean it clearly does something to them. It’s like the bad guy at school I guess. Then he throws in other comments like men don’t deserve to sleep with you unless they are a 10/10 quality man and can provide you a home, a car, dinner every evening for you and the children blablabla” but again it’s like a prized possession. And in return you must give him a “peaceful” household and look after him emotionally.

I can totally relate to this because I’ve heard that if a women goes to a club it’s totally
different to men going to a club, why? Because women get hit on and approached and men don’t. So I said so women get punished because of men’s behaviour? He wasn’t sure what to say. I can imagine how angry your partner was because they look at women as prized possessions I think and I doubt it comes from a place of love and care like they explain.

OP can your sexist, misogynist, drug taking, animal neglecting boyfriend see the hypocrisy in apparently believing in 'traditional' gender stereotypes and values... but still having sex outside of marriage?