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Views on Andrew Tate?

222 replies

Uktousa2022 · 07/06/2023 20:48

For those who have actually watched his videos etc. Could you actually be with someone like that?

OP posts:
WunWun · 07/06/2023 22:50

You know he was arrested and kept in jail for some time on human trafficking charges? What on earth is the point of this thread?

Screamingabdabz · 07/06/2023 22:51

Come on op. Why are really with this man?

Glowly · 07/06/2023 23:04

I hate him. Even a clip of him makes my skin crawl. He's gross and not the brightest bulb in the box. I imagine him to have a tiny knob. He screams of insecurity.

If someone I knew liked him, I'd think they were stupid. The man is tapped. He makes Trump look tame 🤢

Glowly · 07/06/2023 23:06

Leave your partner if he's a Tate fan, it's incel behaviour

Nimblesandbimbles · 07/06/2023 23:29

OP I’ve just seen your other posts. Honestly you need to listen to the advice you’ve been given previously. No good can come from this relationship!

Servalan · 07/06/2023 23:37

OP - in the nicest possible way, there is no point trying to save someone like this. Plenty of women over the course of time have seen something attractive/a glimmer of hope in misogynistic and abusive men and made them a project - only to regret it bitterly when they realise after years of giving and getting nothing in return that all the love and care they pour in is not going to change things a jot. It is a waste of time and only leads to misery.

SquirrelSoShiny · 08/06/2023 07:46

Servalan · 07/06/2023 23:37

OP - in the nicest possible way, there is no point trying to save someone like this. Plenty of women over the course of time have seen something attractive/a glimmer of hope in misogynistic and abusive men and made them a project - only to regret it bitterly when they realise after years of giving and getting nothing in return that all the love and care they pour in is not going to change things a jot. It is a waste of time and only leads to misery.

Yep. We emerge with the scars. I'd like to say I'm wiser now but not 100% wiser.

BarleySugars · 08/06/2023 08:04

No way would i be with him. I'm with a cheerful, funny, extremely kind man who makes life fun and relaxed and has no bone to pick with women.

Keitharingsbitch · 08/06/2023 08:19

He's awful and his views (&actions) are vile. I think in terms of what you're asking, it sounds like somone you know, probably a partner has been watching his videos. I think his videos and the similar content creators radicalise men. Not unlike conspiracy theorists, then getting through to them is almost impossible because you can't argue logic with illogical non fact based ideas.

Sarahtm35 · 08/06/2023 08:24

I don’t think many of the people in the comments have actually watched any of his videos or read any of what he has to say.
i wouldn’t date someone like him because he seems very ‘high maintenance’ however his basic consensus is about teaching men to be
strong, work hard, keep fit, and to be providers to the women in their lives. He also believes in traditional homes with women nurturing and caring for the family and men being the protectors. He believes women shouldn’t have to worry about anything and that it’s their jobs to be the happy feminine element in the relationship and that the man should take on all the stress and worry.
I personally don’t see how his ideas about life are wrong and I do think equality has absolutely corroded and destroyed families and relationships.
I also think people don’t get how social media works, if he has said anything shocking it’s usually just tongue in cheek meant to shock so as to gain attention so people listen to what other things he has to say.

Meeting · 08/06/2023 08:28

It's all an act for the internet, he's playing a character.

I agree with some of his views on certain subjects though not all.

perfectcolourfound · 08/06/2023 08:31

If you have to make efforts to 'get through to' someone so you can change them.....

you're with the wrong person (or they are simply 'the wrong person' for everyone, eg Andrew Tate and anyone who follows his advice).

JorisBonson · 08/06/2023 08:32

Meeting · 08/06/2023 08:28

It's all an act for the internet, he's playing a character.

I agree with some of his views on certain subjects though not all.

What subjects could you possibly agree with a homophobic, misogynistic, racist incel on?

80s · 08/06/2023 08:34

I doubt an aggressively misogynistic accused human trafficker could make a well-adjusted woman want to spend time in his company, let alone sleep with him or be in a relationship. But I've heard of men manipulating young, vulnerable women/girls who have their own issues, so I guess that would happen. Or he'd just physically threaten them.

KatyKopykat · 08/06/2023 08:52

Sarahtm35 · 08/06/2023 08:24

I don’t think many of the people in the comments have actually watched any of his videos or read any of what he has to say.
i wouldn’t date someone like him because he seems very ‘high maintenance’ however his basic consensus is about teaching men to be
strong, work hard, keep fit, and to be providers to the women in their lives. He also believes in traditional homes with women nurturing and caring for the family and men being the protectors. He believes women shouldn’t have to worry about anything and that it’s their jobs to be the happy feminine element in the relationship and that the man should take on all the stress and worry.
I personally don’t see how his ideas about life are wrong and I do think equality has absolutely corroded and destroyed families and relationships.
I also think people don’t get how social media works, if he has said anything shocking it’s usually just tongue in cheek meant to shock so as to gain attention so people listen to what other things he has to say.

Does your username reflect the year you've managed to teleport from?

TheHandmaiden · 08/06/2023 09:02

What BS. The man is a beater of women and is being investigated for rape: a woman can do better than a man that thinks such a man is worth listening to.

TheaBrandt · 08/06/2023 09:10

I wouldn’t get angry or anything but any adult that listens to him seriously I would be embarrassed for and assume was quite thick. Therefore not relationship material

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 09:13

JudyGemstone · 07/06/2023 21:32

His dad apparently has a diagnosis of NPD and I don’t think the Apple fell far from the tree.

His Dad also set him up as a child as the next greatest chess player of all time.

He was not the next greatest chess player of all time.

That sort of thing will lead to "issues".

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 09:15

TheHandmaiden · 08/06/2023 09:02

What BS. The man is a beater of women and is being investigated for rape: a woman can do better than a man that thinks such a man is worth listening to.

Hrs apparently referee to breaking a woman's jaw - apparently accidentally, apparently.

He's also run away from sex trafficking charges, though he's been arrested now I think.

I think Greta said it best with

"[email protected]".

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 09:15

*referred

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 09:17

I personally don’t see how his ideas about life are wrong and I do think equality has absolutely corroded and destroyed families and relationships.

What a twisted mess your thinking is.

Really disturbing.

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 09:18

He also believes in traditional homes with women nurturing and caring for the family and men being the protectors

He has seriously injured women in his "relationships".

He had sex trafficked women.

JorisBonson · 08/06/2023 09:19

Sarahtm35 · 08/06/2023 08:24

I don’t think many of the people in the comments have actually watched any of his videos or read any of what he has to say.
i wouldn’t date someone like him because he seems very ‘high maintenance’ however his basic consensus is about teaching men to be
strong, work hard, keep fit, and to be providers to the women in their lives. He also believes in traditional homes with women nurturing and caring for the family and men being the protectors. He believes women shouldn’t have to worry about anything and that it’s their jobs to be the happy feminine element in the relationship and that the man should take on all the stress and worry.
I personally don’t see how his ideas about life are wrong and I do think equality has absolutely corroded and destroyed families and relationships.
I also think people don’t get how social media works, if he has said anything shocking it’s usually just tongue in cheek meant to shock so as to gain attention so people listen to what other things he has to say.

I can't believe I'm actually reading this.

TheoTheopolis23 · 08/06/2023 09:20

Meeting · 08/06/2023 08:28

It's all an act for the internet, he's playing a character.

I agree with some of his views on certain subjects though not all.

Wouldn't he stop his act at the point where the authorities are after him and he's getting arrested??

Meeting · 08/06/2023 09:21

He had sex trafficked women

Have you been following his case? There has been no evidence against him and all rape charges have been dropped. Regardless of your views on an individual if you, like many others on this thread, want to throw around accusations like that then I think you should at least do a small amount of research.

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