Views on Andrew Tate?

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For those who have actually watched his videos etc. Could you actually be with someone like that?

They also claim women should not have equal rights because they didn't work in industry, building the economy.

The fact that a huge proportion of industrial workers were women and children, is also ignored.

Red pillers have long advocated sourcing foreign wives from third world countries and countries with male dominant culture because western women have been ",ruined" by feminism and liberal democracy.
True - though I wasn't thinking specifically of this type of culture. Even if you come from a similarly modern first-world country and speak the local language, you're still automatically more reliant on the local person.

Yes.

Op's brother appears to live near this specimen in the US (?)

Is that how you met him op?

A real man is one who accepts women as equals.

The new age Red Pill is all about an easy lay from second and third world countries. Finding a wife doesn't come into it. This isn't anything new though and has gone on for a very long time.

The old school Red Pill focused on self-improvement through the gym, languages, culture etc. where you are basically interesting, muscular and charismatic. It also teaches you to be confident, develop ambition and achieve your goals across all avenues in your life from careers to love. Basically making sure you're not a doormat.

The Andrew Tate version is trash though. Zero respect for anything. He has clearly had a concussion too many.

He's a vile, sleazy misogynist.

The main problem with him is that he is abusive, and probably a criminal.

However, in his messaging alone, he mixes wholesome stuff ,like the route to success is hard work, with dodgy sexist stuff.

I think that there is a crisis in masculinity and he asks some good questions. However, I don’t agree with his answers. You do have to ask why he is so popular, though, and not just duck the question.

He said before he knew his next gf would either be Colombian or British - so he could fight them? Then laughed..

https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1666571156134961152?cxt=HHwWgICxpd_o7KAuAAAA

This is why there is a crisis in masculinity.

What’s all this red pill stuff? Never heard of
it. I recently heard in his podcasts that he doesn’t agree with dads being home all day with the baby and they should be grafting hard at work.

You need to watch the film The Matrix initially to understand being pilled. It's brought out in philosophy and Tate references it.

he doesn’t agree with dads being home all day with the baby and they should be grafting hard at work

People can agree with you in one issue and not in others.

I don't think men are very good compared to a baby's mother at care of a baby. The baby knows mum's heart beat, her voice and mum in most cases had the exact nutrition the baby requires.

I also have wild hormone levels, they get really high with testosterone for a female and I am not as nice a person during that part of my cycle as I am the rest of the time, I also have less control of myself. We also see that females who take testosterone drugs full time begin to have the same crime stats as males, it never improves with makes it they reduce testosterone.

Oh yuck. This is awful for young women and for men who think women should not work outside the home. Can you imagine your bright, energetic, talented, daughter being at the behest of one of these morons and having to be ‘happy and feminine’ so she can be ‘taken care of’? Boke. Women don’t want this and men who do are deeply unattractive.

Mate.

Drug taking.
Animal neglect.
Misogyny.
Sexism.
Stupidity (believing his dog, who has killed another dog before, wouldn't hurt a potential future child of yours as it would 'know' it's part of him 🙄).

Even if you're staying with your brother, why on earth are you still speaking to this man let alone remaining in a relationship with him?!

You've started multiple threads about him which is of course your prerogative, your choice.

But doesn't that tell you that your gut is screaming out to you to break up with him?

How you can claim to be an animal lover and be with a man who is so neglectful of his own is baffling.

Even with reduced testosterone in males, sports stats show the make still struggles to be below a females testosterone levels, they are also strong, if you have never been hit by a male you have no idea how stronger they are than females.

I wouldn't have a SAHD for my child nor a male babysitter or nanny.

He has clearly had a concussion too many.

Possibly.

His Dad is an issue (genetics?) and his upbringing also an issue "the next world champion chess player" (who was not).

Long before the concussions.

There is no new crisis in masculinity- there just behaving e.the way they always have .... And still do around most of the world.

They may be even worse in western democracies - because they now have less power over women ... But it's nothing new. It's same old, sane old.

The biggest worry is the number of young males who think he’s the real deal.

Exactly.
All this is, is a manufactured crisis to which bottom feeders like Andrew Tate can then market a "solution". And when their solution doesn't work - because it's a complete and utter pile of wank - the fault is with the person who bought into it, never with the terrible, flawed ideology being sold in the first place. If it doesn't work, you just didn't buy in hard enough or it's the fault of everyone around you - never your own.

It's the same as any other predatory marketing. Create a problem to which your product is the only solution, and then sell that solution to people who are scared of the problem.

You are clearly not stupid op.

Why are you still engaging with this dope head, inadequate, sexist, brain washed, irresponsible, entitled wanker?

Because he said he'd "take care" of you?

You've seen what his taking care of consists of so far.

It also comes with the highest possible price - loss of your independence, self determination and basic human rights.

Are you thinking you'll not find one other man to commit to you in time to have kids??

Why do keep staying in contact with him, presumably shagging him, and making threads about him?

He said, he said ...... So fucking what. Lots of people say lots of things. A lot of them are shite.

The NHS does this as do many others, they are cults and people attack you for saying so. They have gone to absurdity now with TWAW mixed sex wards and gaslighting vulnerable people, to the point they offer brainwashing they call therapy for women to accept TWAW. I have lost all respect, they are as bad as Tate in my book.

I used to think that the NHS was scientific, I now realise it's like a charity, set up with good intentions and they never sort the problems as that would put them out of work, they are job creation schemes.

@TheoTheopolis23 ,

I would suspect you are very young. The model posited by Andrew Tate was the norm when I was young, men worked and, on the whole, especially if they could afford to, women stayed at home after children. This probably started to change in the 80s, when I was at uni, but, nonetheless, many of my (very clever) female friends chose to take long career breaks (some pretty permanent) when they had children.

In addition, men were respected for working hard and bringing in the money, even if they did little childcare or much around the home.

From today’s perspective, that seems horribly sexist, but it did happen and, on the whole, both parties were happy.

Add to that the whole culture of objectification being sexist if you attach it to men (‘look at those tits’) and highly modern and progressive when applied to women (look at threads on here with comments like ‘wouldn’t mind seeing what’s under his shorts’) and you have the background into which misogynistic abusers such as Andrew Tate gain traction.

I am not guessing at this. I know that in schools, when Tate is countered and teen boys are asked why they like him, they cite the hypocrisy where different rules are applies to boys and girls.

Please be clear, I am not defending Tate. I despise him and his misogyny. But, in the same sense as we explain Hitler’s popularity via the Nuremberg treaty, we need to try and understand the background under which Tate has gained traction.

Why do keep staying in contact with him, presumably shagging him, and making threads about him?

Orgasm addiction she associates with him?

If be surprised if that fool could make anyone come.

Unfortunately you get oxytocin from shagging whether you come or not.