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Are Court Seers/Oracles/Astrologers still used today?

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Inspecto · 02/01/2023 01:37

Throughout history there appears to be a Court Seer/Oracle/Astrologer that Kings and Queens or other leaders turn to for guidance. And their insights were taken seriously in decision making too.

Documentary on Netflix suggests the blood moon during the fall of Constantinople spelled omens. Heeding these astrological omens influenced Ottoman leader Mehmed II’s decision making, leading to his side successfully conquering Constantinople, modern day Istanbul.

I think it’s fascinating that an astrological omen was identified, taken seriously in decision making by a leader and acted on with the predicted results coming true.

Do modern day leaders (kings or queens or emperors or empresses) still turn to omen and spiritual sign readers? Or has that art been lost or dismissed in favour of something else?

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OMG12 · 17/02/2023 21:20

@Inspectamus hope you don’t mind me joining the chat. I’ve kind of been watching silently.

I deal a lot with symbols, divination etc. One of the first rules before you try and deal with any of these things is to make sure you are balanced within yourself. Without that balance you have little hope in correctly interpreting sign/symbols etc. The only thing you will see is a reflection of your own fears. You need to be fully aware of self first, that way you will know what you are seeing. You need to be able to protect yourself from this scenario.

to this end even before one starts on the path it is recommended to seek a form of councilling for months. I undertake councilling every year or if I need to re ground to try and help me balance. It creates a break, a full stop to ensure I’m not being deceived or caught up in my own feelings it’s a mirror to see where I am. It’s very easy to get drawn into a trap of our own creation and once we’re in that we create a narrative which will keep us there. We cling to things we have no business clinging to. To refer you back to earlier comments look at what happened with Edward Kelley, John Dees scryer.

I can almost guarantee what signs you are seeing are a reflection of your own fears, insecurities and hidden desires. There’s nothing wrong with that and indeed certain types of divination/ mediation very much rely on this. But you need to recognise this is what is happening and view it accordingly.

this isn’t about The King, about God it’s about you. It may indeed be a message from God but the message is about you,

I don’t actually think talking to clergy would help. You are likely to carry your fears into that meeting Lay aside your preoccupation about others, seek out a therapist who is sympathetic to spirituality (you might want to seek a psycho analyst (Jung, I think is going to be your friend)) to discuss you.

Don’t forget the kingdom of heaven is with you, you need to cleanse your doors of perception to view it clearly.

We have an ancient phrase as above so below - Christian’s have the same, on earth as it is in heaven, unless you address your own fears etc then your view of heaven will be distorted.

CuddlesPleaseTiddles · 01/04/2023 10:37

Yes they are used. By world leaders too. You'll not read about it anywhere though.

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