How girls and women dress in western countries *MNHQ adding content warning for SA as requested*

[Hadmysay]

It's an interesting conversation

www.tiktok.com/@danielle90sbaby/video/7501747121238936854

www.tiktok.com/@meetthealis/video/7503903907920317718. Is this unfeminist to feel like this or do they have a point?

Men should never rape women ever. Even if you do dress like that.

so I presume more rapes (according to you that is) would happen on a beach or in summer than in snow season?, going by your logic

Well my stats from numerous websites and how I know it to be true because I live in the uk but I have visited both countries and I have also met many people who have visited those two countries who speak of how safe they are for women.

I agree. Particularly where marital rape is not recognised as a crime. Culturally there would be a lot of shaming of a woman who reported rape. In some societies they have been made to marry their rapist, to avoid “scandal”. Also see the countries who allow child brides, that is rape.

Are you a man? Because I’m struggling to understand how you can think that it simply comes down to what women and children wear is the reason they are raped.

You’re trying to argue two different points. Both don’t make any sense and victim blame. I’ve asked you several times what about the clothing of babies, children, elderly women and men who are raped. Are these wearing sexy outfits? But haven’t answered. What about women wearing coverings? Why are they raped? You can’t see their bodies. Surely if it came down to sexualised clothing, these women would never be raped.

There are websites that say Donald Trump is perfectly sane, I have been to the US

This means absolutley nothing

Living in the UK doesn’t mean a website is going to be true 😂😂😂

And there you have it 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 well done op you’ve shown everyone what we already knew about you.

Op must be a troll, surely no one is this obtuse.

Does pornography contribute to rape culture?

It's just different child and forced marriage still occurs- I think that is rape.

If a man is a sexual predator, he will be a sexual predator regardless of what his female, male or child victims are wearing.

I would argue they would not report it for fear of being stoned to death for 'adultery' let alone the social shaming

That is a very powerful exhibition and feel more people need to be aware of it

why haven’t you answered my questions about the clothing babies, children, elderly women and men wear when they are raped? Rapists are the sole contributor to rape culture.

Women aren't young school girls. So what are they doing that "contributes" to rape?

I believe porn contributes to rape culture in that it is full of images of women being violated and a huge amount of images of women in pain (lots of other things too; but that's the core of it). The violation is the arousing bit.

Porn doesn't have lots of images of women in revealing clothes and other women covered up and suggests that it's better to go for the ones in revealing clothing. 'Modest' clothing in porn is there to be ripped off.

This may be the same exhibition shown in Belgium some years back. One woman took her sons and they saw a child's tracksuit suitable for a year eight child.......

There is also a babygrow…

Blaming women and in this case children is partly responsible for rape culture. The first woman was talking about children OP. Blaming children for being sexually assaulted.

In Muslim countries women can't report rape because they get punished and rape is not illegal in marriage.

Women talk about the terrible sexual harassment they get without a male chaperone. Egypt is particularly bad and women are seen as less than.

Rapists are responsible for rape OP.

Well I was assaulted and I was in school uniform (navy tracksuit trousers and a navy sweatshirt). Thanks for the tips on how to avoid it next time though I guess.

It really doesn't help women to pretend men commit rape entirely at random and there are no factors which might allow us to predict when rape is more likely. Identifying these factors isn't victim blaming.

I don't understand rapist psychology, so I don't really know what most of those factors are. I don't know if wearing a short skirt makes a woman more appealing to a rapist or not. But it might do so, and confidently stating it can't do so might just be putting women in more danger.

And of course, not all rapists are the same. The ones raping elderly women and children may not be the same as the ones targeting young women. Whether or not the first group(s) care about what their victims are wearing doesn't necessarily tell us much about what members of the latter group might prefer.

@JeremiahBullfrog

It really doesn't help women to pretend men commit rape entirely at random and there are no factors which might allow us to predict when rape is more likely.

We do know what factors make rape more likely; knowing the rapist.

The reason rape statistics are a wild guess is because rape is reported so rarely. It's reported so rarely because of lack of trust in the judicial system and because you're likely to know your rapist.

Women and girls are raped by family, friends, relatives, colleagues and partners. Stranger rape is rare.

Energy is best spent telling women and girls what to wear around their school friends or husbands so they can avoid rape.

Sorry but youre wrong.
India and Pakistan are two countries with the highest incidences of rapes (and it doesn't even get reported as much as it should do in these places) and the women are mostly fully clothed there

What strikes me is men walk around half naked yet women manage not to sexually assault men all the time. If we genuinely believe men are so incapable of controlling themselves we really should give them all a tag and a curfew.

Do I think sometimes people pass the point of decency yes. Do I think thats connected to rape, no not really. That exhibition, theres a little girls dress that just breaks my heart.