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How girls and women dress in western countries *MNHQ adding content warning for SA as requested*

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Hadmysay · 20/05/2025 19:54

It's an interesting conversation

www.tiktok.com/@danielle90sbaby/video/7501747121238936854

www.tiktok.com/@meetthealis/video/7503903907920317718. Is this unfeminist to feel like this or do they have a point?

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Hadmysay · 09/07/2025 04:56

pointythings · 04/07/2025 12:11

Because sometimes we want to. No further explanation is necessary. My DD dresses like that sometimes when she goes clubbing with friends. It's boiling in clubs. She looks great. She enjoys it. It's not that deep. You like to dress conservatively, other women like to dress wild. Neither choice is better than the other.

The word 'slutty' comes laden with judgement about the woman's character and morals, and that is why it is offensive.

My DD dresses like that sometimes when she goes clubbing with friends. It's boiling in clubs. She looks great.

I doubt she does.
Whenever I see women who dress like that they tend to look cheap and tacky.

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Hadmysay · 09/07/2025 04:58

Bex5490 · 02/07/2025 06:42

If you keep posting this because you are a black woman, as a fellow black woman, that makes me sad.

Get off the internet and go read a book.

I am not a black woman and she is right

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Hadmysay · 09/07/2025 05:01

pointythings · 04/07/2025 12:01

I would suggest that you give some deep thought to your use of the word 'slutty', because it is a deeply misogynist term.

But how would you like people to address and perceive people who dress like hookers?

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Hadmysay · 09/07/2025 05:46

StandFirm · 05/07/2025 10:05

Yes. Rape is caused by rapists, nothing else.
Upon seeing a scantily clad drunk reveller, any decent guy would look out for them and help them, not rape them.

Not every man is decent.
A good percentage aren't.
Shock horror.

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pointythings · 09/07/2025 07:26

Hadmysay · 09/07/2025 05:01

But how would you like people to address and perceive people who dress like hookers?

With the same courtesy and good manners one would deploy towards anyone else, because I was raised to not judge.

pointythings · 09/07/2025 07:27

Hadmysay · 09/07/2025 04:56

My DD dresses like that sometimes when she goes clubbing with friends. It's boiling in clubs. She looks great.

I doubt she does.
Whenever I see women who dress like that they tend to look cheap and tacky.

Only in your opinion, and you know what they say about those...

pointythings · 09/07/2025 08:12

Hadmysay · 09/07/2025 05:46

Not every man is decent.
A good percentage aren't.
Shock horror.

And the ones that aren't will rape no matter what the woman is wearing, as evidenced by the complete non-eradication of sexual violence in places where women are forced to cover up.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 09/07/2025 09:17

Hadmysay · 09/07/2025 05:46

Not every man is decent.
A good percentage aren't.
Shock horror.

So focus your time and energy on doing something about deviant men and stop blaming women for their behaviour. It evidently doesn't work.

JHound · 09/07/2025 14:43

It’s baffling to me how male sexual aggression is still seen by many as simply men’s default - impossible to expect them to be better so easier to police women instead (and has there ever been any studies showing a causative relationship between attire and risk of sexual assault?)

StandFirm · 09/07/2025 16:48

JHound · 09/07/2025 14:43

It’s baffling to me how male sexual aggression is still seen by many as simply men’s default - impossible to expect them to be better so easier to police women instead (and has there ever been any studies showing a causative relationship between attire and risk of sexual assault?)

I know. It's that old fashioned toxic 'boys will be boys' attitude which is letting them off the hook for anything from casual misogyny and uselessness around the home to downright abuse and violence.

Exitin · 09/07/2025 17:15

StandFirm · 09/07/2025 16:48

I know. It's that old fashioned toxic 'boys will be boys' attitude which is letting them off the hook for anything from casual misogyny and uselessness around the home to downright abuse and violence.

I can’t stand that phrase/attitude. I pulled a friend up about using that comment and said how harmful it was. Funnily enough she has 3 daughters, no sons.

Really glad my mum (dad was absent) didn’t bring my brothers up like this. They were older than me so were actually given more tasks and responsibilities around the house.

When I taught abroad in east Asia the boys in some of my classes were shocked when I pulled them up on certain things that usually only the girls would get told off for - like speaking far too loudly during class. They asked why I didn’t tell the girls to lower their voice and I said because they weren’t being overly loud!

So to them a slightly animated girl was the equivalent of an extremely loud boy.

The standard of good behaviour is often set much higher for girls and it irks me.

MuckFusk · 10/07/2025 04:05

pointythings · 04/07/2025 13:21

I am happy for us to disagree, but the fact that you defend passing moral judgement on other women solely based on how they choose to dress for a night out makes me think less of you.

The OP has hit a new low and has said your daughter probably looks cheap and tacky. Way over the line. Some people get vicious when they've been shown to be in the wrong but don't have the courage to face how ridiculous their beliefs are and how lame their attempts to defend them are.
I'm sure your daughter looks fabulous. 🙂

pointythings · 10/07/2025 09:17

MuckFusk · 10/07/2025 04:05

The OP has hit a new low and has said your daughter probably looks cheap and tacky. Way over the line. Some people get vicious when they've been shown to be in the wrong but don't have the courage to face how ridiculous their beliefs are and how lame their attempts to defend them are.
I'm sure your daughter looks fabulous. 🙂

She absolutely does. She's also very sensible and always goes clubbing in groups, which include trusted men. They go to the loo in pairs and provide cover on the dance floor.

OP is sadly someone who hates women. You can't change people whose misogyny runs so deep.

GreenCandleWax · 10/07/2025 21:11

pointythings · 10/07/2025 09:17

She absolutely does. She's also very sensible and always goes clubbing in groups, which include trusted men. They go to the loo in pairs and provide cover on the dance floor.

OP is sadly someone who hates women. You can't change people whose misogyny runs so deep.

OP is either a toxic man or an extremely sad woman who cannot see the patriarchal oppression she is under and has internalised it to such a degree that she actually hates other women, same as oppressive misogynistic men do. So sad. S(he) is incapable of listening, thinking, reflecting or self-awareness too. Just ignorant and seems happy to stay ignorant. You need help OP with your very fixed fixations. I hope you get help.

Hadmysay · 12/07/2025 21:54

No I will do both.
There's a saying you can walk and chew gum at the same time.
I will call out both.
For the past 60 years women have contributed to our own oppression and its not going to stop unless we men and women BOTH accept our part in this

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pointythings · 12/07/2025 22:01

Repeating the bullshit doesn't miraculously make it true. When a woman is rated, the person 100% responsible is the one who rapes her. End of story.

Hadmysay · 18/07/2025 18:51

https://www.tiktok.com/@chifluencer/video/7527807254322597175

I like how she spoke the truth. Why is being half naked seen as freedom. Has it gotten women or free ? NO.

TikTok - Make Your Day

https://www.tiktok.com/@chifluencer/video/7527807254322597175

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pointythings · 18/07/2025 18:54

Oh, hello again! Another random video of an influencer? That's still all you've got?

pointythings · 18/07/2025 18:54

However, just to make sure the last post people see isn't one of yours...

pointythings · 18/07/2025 18:55

I'm just going to fill this thread with things that are more entertaining than you are.

pointythings · 18/07/2025 18:55

Cats!

How girls and women dress in western countries  *MNHQ adding content warning for SA as requested*
pointythings · 18/07/2025 18:56

I have five cats, so this should be a real treat.

How girls and women dress in western countries  *MNHQ adding content warning for SA as requested*
pointythings · 18/07/2025 18:57

For the sensible people who aren't wedded to internalised misogyny, that is...

How girls and women dress in western countries  *MNHQ adding content warning for SA as requested*
Hadmysay · 18/07/2025 18:58

https://www.tiktok.com/@chifluencer/video/7527807254322597175

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Hadmysay · 18/07/2025 18:58

Walking around half naked is not freedom ok

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