Manscreaming

[Cuppasoupmonster]

Anyone else sick of this? I’ve never seen a woman do it.

Example 1 - 2 men on our (quiet, residential) street on opposite sides of the road are having a ‘conversation’. Only they’re not, they’re bellowing across the road to each other (with fuck or shit being every other word) for a good 10 minutes. Because it’s much more manly to stay where you are and scream like a nutter than it is to cross the road and talk like a normal person.

Example 2 - on a bus the other day, woman opposite me chatting quietly on her mobile. Bloke behind me picks his up and literally shouts down it - ‘HI KEV YOU ALRIGHT! YEAH IM ON THE BUS! YEAH FUCKING FREEZING ISNT IT! DID YOU HEAR ABOUT SO AND SO? YEAH WHAT A CUNT’ blah blah blah

Could probably come up with a new example every few days!

Just shut up you sad man nobody cares or is impressed with your stupid vocal cords

But this isn’t class based behabiour (as in caused by class privilege), it’s most likely based on the increased prevalence of an invisible disability that affects men at twice the rate of women and causes exactly what you are observing- loud talking. Furthermore, men aren’t oppressing women by talking loudly amongst themselves.

They are when they’re saying ‘fuck’ or ‘cunt’ every other word around small children; knowing women don’t have the confidence to intervene.

Several posters have said they see just as many women doing this 🤷‍♀️
Are you excluding them from your “we”?

Studies have been posted upthread showing women swear more often than men. So maybe it’s not lack of confidence but simply giving zero fucks because their kids have already heard it from their own mouths.

Men are fucking oppressing women by talking fucking loudly in public - it's a way of making sure women in the area know there is, in the immediate vicinity, a man capable of ignoring social norms, who is "big" in the sense he's taking up more social space (the communal air space) than is usually allocated to an individual, and that he is unperturbed by the needs or wants of those around him - it's a fucking big klaxon that "an alpha male (aka ignorant fucking tosspot) is here" and this contributes absolutely to the masculinisation of society and oppression of women.

So fucking jog on.

Oh @Onnabugeisha take the day off, you’re boring everyone

I’m sorry but this “manscreaming” isn’t a feminist issue at all.
Not everything unpleasant in life can be attributed to male oppression of females.

Ive always said the people with the least amount to say are the loudest.

On a less serious note (I'm not being flippant honestly!) but when I saw the title and read the OP it put me in mind of 'The Fast Show' with Dom Joly...I'm going back some years now so not all of you will remember, but he played a character who was forever yelling into his giant mobile phone, used to give me and my Mum in stitches.

It’s so depressing to see fellow women not employ their critical thinking skills at all and willfully ignore the science and established statistics relevant to this issue.

Where are all the accusatory threads asking why black people commit more crime or why Muslims are so homophobic

Clue’s in the name of the board. HTH.

DARVO stands for deny, attack, reverse victim and offender

That has been happening on this thread but not from OP. Her position has been clear from the start.

This thread is hilariously batshit. Some posters are very fragile.

Ffs discrimination against men doesn’t exist, nor does racism against white people. This is exhausting 😂 DH is just as sick of the screaming Alphas as I am.

That’s not feminism. Feminism isn’t about peddling angry sexist twaddle about men.

DARVO doesn’t apply to a fucking debate on facts.

You cannot apply a model that describes the relationship dynamics of an abusive intimate relationship to a discussion on why it seems like alot of men talk loudly.

DH is just as sick of the screaming Alphas as I am.
Same here with my DH, and the same for many of my friends' husbands, especially those with sons. It's quite interesting hearing the dads talk about wanting to make sure their son's grown up with decent male role models because the dads themselves identify that toxic masculinity is a problem.

Amen.

Is it possible to block a poster on here? The derailer beginning with O is really annoying me this morning, came on for a bit of a laugh and a mild eye roll and instead get lectured ……

Men dominating all the space both physically and in terms of noise (talking so loudly others can't have a conversation or read a magazine) are definitely being oppressive.

They are basically saying "my desires are more important than anyone else"

I have never seen women do the performative noise making or the manspreading but I have seen lots of men do this.

If you read about men's behaviour in public you'll see they do tend to hog public space. The first couple of chapters of "Invisible Women" are good for studies about this.

I'm amazed people can't see that this groupthink is classic bigot behaviour

Yep. Agree completely.

Oooh look I’m ‘angry’ (even though I’m not)! Now I’m certain this poster is male..

I agree which was why I was commenting when another poster suggested that's what OP was doing.

Although claiming men shout and swear because they are deaf and misunderstood is a bit darvoesque

Yes men take up more space, they are bigger.
Yes more men talk loudly, they are twice as likely to need to due to hearing loss.

Ive read Invisible Woman and I thought much of it was lacking rigor.
There’s a reason why it wasn’t published via the usual peer review process but as popular fiction.

Not really, because the thread is about men having loud, sweary conversations between themselves whilst in public.

It’s not about men verbally abusing anyone by shouting and swearing- so no such claim has been made.