Manscreaming

[Cuppasoupmonster]

Anyone else sick of this? I’ve never seen a woman do it.

Example 1 - 2 men on our (quiet, residential) street on opposite sides of the road are having a ‘conversation’. Only they’re not, they’re bellowing across the road to each other (with fuck or shit being every other word) for a good 10 minutes. Because it’s much more manly to stay where you are and scream like a nutter than it is to cross the road and talk like a normal person.

Example 2 - on a bus the other day, woman opposite me chatting quietly on her mobile. Bloke behind me picks his up and literally shouts down it - ‘HI KEV YOU ALRIGHT! YEAH IM ON THE BUS! YEAH FUCKING FREEZING ISNT IT! DID YOU HEAR ABOUT SO AND SO? YEAH WHAT A CUNT’ blah blah blah

Could probably come up with a new example every few days!

Just shut up you sad man nobody cares or is impressed with your stupid vocal cords

Love how the posters moaning about men swearing more are now ignoring the studies showing that women actually swear more. 😂

Why does it matter? They’re not shrieking it like lunatics in public. That’s the issue, not swearing in itself.

And what are you basing yours on? An unfounded assumption that all the men discussed here are deaf 😂

Manscreaming. Yes. My ex is a manscreamer. When he was dropping the kids off home, I could hear him coming before he even knocked on the door.
He bloody loves the sound of his own voice. I despise the fecker

Yep. I’m glad you posted them. They are arguing the hearing loss data because that’s the last straw they have to cling on to.

Why would you stand over the road from someone to speak to them if you have hearing loss? It makes no sense whatsoever. This has to be the weirdest excuse I’ve ever heard for anything!

Hearing loss by any chance? 😂

Men being twice as likely as women to be living with hearing loss and thus twice as likely to be speaking in a louder volume, doesn’t mean the same thing as all the men discussed here are deaf.

Youre laughing at your own strawman and well you should. He’s pretty fragile.

So what you’re describe is correlation not causation. The causation here is twattery. Men are 3 times more likely to have Tourette’s, doesn’t mean that excuses their catcalling.

On average it takes several years before anyone notices they have hearing loss. In short, many young men living with hearing loss, do not realise they have it until it has worsened quite a bit.

If they have hearing loss their natural inclination would be to move closer to the other party to hear them, not bellow across the road.

By his own admissions, I quote the POS "I have to be the loudest in the room and the only one talking because I'm scared of being bullied because I was bullied as a child, so I have to dominate the conversation."

I could never get a word in edgeways! I cannot stand this behaviour from men. It is deffo some kind of small dick energy alpha bs.

So, ignoring the Tourette’s/catcalling whataboutery

No, I’m describing causation not correlation.
You lose hearing, which causes you to speak louder
And your hearing loss also causes your friends and relatives to speak louder to you.
Over several years, the hearing loss worsens
Then you get an hearing aid and no longer speak loudly.

No, that’s not the case. Most people carry on as normal when they are unaware they have suffered some loss of hearing.

I’ve never thought about this before, but it sounds like it’s related to what I call hyena laughter, which I unfortunately am very attuned to. This is the extremely loud, penetrating and high pitched laughter emitted by certain groups of young men. The same groups of young men who refer to each other exclusively as bro and, yes, swear very ostentatiously. I hate to use the overused word performative but it absolutely describes the laughter (never met anyone who doesn’t fit into that description who laughs like this) and the swearing too.

Loathe it.

It’s not whataboutism it’s exactly the same logic. This is boring me now.

This isn’t a man thing, there was some bellend on the bus yesterday using their phone in the ‘twat position’ (holding it facing away from them with their mouth close to the microphone, using the speakerphone) having a delightfully detailed conversation about her exes’ todger.

It was actually one of the older ladies on the bus who politely pointed out we really don’t need to know the details, and to either hang up or keep it down.

To think this is a male pattern issue is beyond deluded.

Sorry, I should have remembered that science bores you.

Your ‘science’ does. It involves banging on and on about a condition while not providing any evidence it’s actually linked to the situation being discussed at all.

I have posted evidence. And you can hardly say I’m banging on and on when you initiated the discussion with me and have sought to discredit the evidence which I have merely corrected you on in response.

You don’t have any evidence that what you think:
“Men just like to display ‘dominant’ behaviour in public because they need to feel important and alpha.” is linked to men talking loudly to each other in a private conversation. You’ve just airly said “in my experience”

No you haven’t - you’ve just stated that men are more likely to suffer hearing loss. That’s it 🤷🏼‍♀️ no evidence whatsoever to suggest that is responsible for the scenarios being discussed here. If you can’t see this then you’re not as ‘scientific’ as you think you are. To hold any water, your theory now has to show evidence that that hearing loss is not only very common but the reason for men shouting across the street and yelling down their phones, who are then perfectly able to hold conversations at a normal pitch when required. Until you can make the connection then your theory is laughably
meaningless.

Men talking loudly is not going to cause significant hearing damage. You need sustained decibel volume of >85db to cause damage and really this is the very low end where it would take hours daily.

Speech is around 55-65db and shouting is about 80db unless somebody literally screams into your ear hole which can be harmful.

It is a well known fact that untreated hearing loss causes people to talk louder and to be spoken to louder than the normal volume level.

You are wondering why do some men talk so loud? Well, I’ve presented the evidence that men are twice as likely to be suffering from hearing loss. Ergo, men are twice as likely to be speaking more loudly than the normal volume level.

Hearing loss is actually very common, I linked the evidence which you obviously haven’t even bothered to look at. You’d have to prove your few anecdotes represent a disproportionate number of men talking loudly…which is impossible even if it was not very common.

You have presented no evidence whatsoever to support your assertion men talk loudly because “Men just like to display ‘dominant’ behaviour in public because they need to feel important and alpha.” Youve only said “in my experience” as evidence. Which is a bit odd really because how would you know that what men like or feel causes this behaviour if you are a woman? You have no idea if they are talking loudly because they want to feel important and so on.

And now you’re literally fabricating data…
who are then perfectly able to hold conversations at a normal pitch when required I mean, that’s a desperate act right there to start making shit up to suit your narrative.

Sorry, but how is this relevant? Talking loudly doesn’t cause hearing loss, hearing loss causes talking loudly.

But as I said, I don't think threads like this do us any favours.

When we come to argue that it's illegal to discriminate against the protected characteristic of our sex, or that our gender critical views are protected, people will hold up threads like this as an example and say 'oh, those protected characteristics you care so much about?'

If we set a precedent whereby protected characteristics can be ignored depending on our belief system then we facilitate others doing the same. We might argue that men aren't oppressed, but others might argue that white feminists aren't oppressed and marginalised transwomen are just 'punching up' against those horrid 'terfs'. In fact, they already say this.

We might find that all our derisory rhetoric about mansplaining/manspreading/manscreaming etc bites us on the arse when we're arguing against bigger issues like self ID and being told that we're hypocrites and it's now their turn to pick and choose to ignore our protected characteristics around GC beliefs etc.