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Remind me to never piss off Dominic Cummings…

202 replies

MyBossIsATwat · 16/06/2021 13:36

And/or send him any WhatsApp messages 😬

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/16/cummings-texts-show-boris-johnson-calling-matt-hancock-totally-hopeless

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lljkk · 16/06/2021 19:12

A normal NDA might have very big penalties, but this one is quite unique in having political penalty if enforced.

Unless it's all a ruse to pre-empty inquiry Next year...

SueSaid · 16/06/2021 19:15

'What’s the point then of using one? Anyone could disclose anything'

Yes it really is very surprising that this information can be made public from private WhatsApp conversations. Meghan Markle sued the dm for releasing private letters that she could have expected would remain private. You would think at the heart of government the same would apply.

I'm all for whistle blowing but this isn't that, it is childish crap. As I say yes submit to the commission but not on Twitter. Imagine if courts of law did this with witnesses releasing all their gossip/evidence.

MarshaBradyo · 16/06/2021 19:17

If he was feeling particularly unhinged he could do national security stuff

It’s crazy

SueSaid · 16/06/2021 19:20

'If he was feeling particularly unhinged he could do national security stuff'

Yes surely confidentiality should be a very basic government law. Bit like Drs couldn't just release private WhatsApp chats with famous people.

Lightswitchesoffatnight · 16/06/2021 19:47

He's an idiot, he's bitter, he's a fool and worst of all, he has zero integrity.

frumpety · 16/06/2021 19:52

He's an idiot, he's bitter, he's a fool and worst of all, he has zero integrity.

Are we still talking about Dominic ?

Lightswitchesoffatnight · 16/06/2021 19:54

Yes, Cummings.

frumpety · 16/06/2021 19:56

Describes so many though doesn't it Wink

Beannag · 16/06/2021 19:57

It was obvious hancock was always going to be the fall guy. Poor leadership to acknowledge someone is doing crap and likely needs help or reprimanding and to bitch about it on WhatsApp rather than address it. In other jobs ultimately the buck usually ends with management, it should be the same here- Boris is as guilty as anyone for being useless. Cummings is still a knob though.

TSSDNCOP · 16/06/2021 20:01

It's like having the ex from hell isn't it? I'm surprised he hasn't broken in a burned Boris's suits in the garden.

nancy75 · 16/06/2021 20:07

@Lindy2

I always got the impression Dominic was pretty universally hated and only Boris liked him (for some reason).

The ones that hate him clearly got it right. What a slime ball he is. Does he not see that he is destroying his own reputation as well as trying to destroy the reputation of others? Who on earth would employ or trust the weasel ever again.

Cummings doesn’t have a reputation to destroy, publicly everyone already hates him. Nothing more dangerous than a man with nothing to lose & a phone full of damning WhatsApp messages!

As for never working again, don’t bank on it. If he manages to oust Boris Gove will be eternally grateful & give him a top job

frumpety · 16/06/2021 20:15

I do wonder what he has on Gove ?

Dave20 · 16/06/2021 20:19

As I understand it, Cummings was protected by Boris last year with the whole Barnard Castle episode? What made Cummings stab Boris in the back?

nancy75 · 16/06/2021 20:20

He worked with Gove as special advisor from 2007 to 2014, I think it was also Give that got him involved in running vote leave.
It’s always been my opinion that Cummings knows Gove would struggle to win an election but was using Boris (first by helping him get elected, then by destroying him) to get Gove in to number 10 by the back door.

GlencoraP · 16/06/2021 20:20

Honestly can’t bear any of them , but it’s all very well saying ‘fire them’ and slagging them off . Who was he suggesting instead because frankly Hancock was the only person on offer . No one else would have touched the job with a barge pole.

What I want to know is what has Gavin Williamson got on Johnson and Cummings because he is the most incompetent of the lot.

Cummings would sack all of them and then bugger off himself. He us a nasty workshy individual who has absolutely no constructive input whatsoever .

DoingItMyself · 16/06/2021 20:21

He's a little rat, isn't he?

nancy75 · 16/06/2021 20:23

What I want to know is what has Gavin Williamson got on Johnson and Cummings because he is the most incompetent of the lot

That is a mystery, Williamson is like a stupid version of Frank Spencer.

5zeds · 16/06/2021 20:23

Such a revolting little man. Please someone offer him a job somewhere far far away with no internet connection.

nancy75 · 16/06/2021 20:25

@DoingItMyself

He's a little rat, isn't he?
They all are, all of it’s about self preservation. Notice in the messages Boris is worried because of opinion polls & focus groups - he’s not actually bothered that the ineptitude of MH is killing people, he’s just worried about how it looks
PotassiumChloride · 16/06/2021 20:26

I hope this stuff is just the prelude, the light overture to the really major shit. Looking forward to what’s next.

frumpety · 16/06/2021 20:26

Maybe its a bit like the Blair/Brown pact , they are all in it together, with Cummings as the fixer ?

nancy75 · 16/06/2021 20:27

The fact that Boris has commuted his thoughts to messages that could then go on to be shared shows how poor his judgement is. Anyone with half a brain can see that Cummings is a snake, best held at arms length

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 16/06/2021 20:27

Boris is teflon. Doesn't seem to matter what he does, nothing sticks. Cummings is just making himself look like a back stabbing low life because even people who don't like this government, still tend to think that there should be a reasonable expectation of privacy and confidentiality with regard to these conversations.
I don't think Hancock deserves to be the fall guy - the whole government has made some shocking decisions, not least the PM and DC! It's a bit pot calling the kettle black to say Hancock is useless. The PM's refusal to shut borders is why we are where we are right now. Buck stops and all that. Only it won't because, Boris is teflon

Bloodyfuckit · 16/06/2021 20:28

@amicissimma

But good news Boris plans to quit soon so that's a positive thing to look forward to.

But who would replace him? We could jump out of the frying pan and into the fire!

I'm willing to take the chance quite frankly.
frumpety · 16/06/2021 20:29

Anyone with half a brain can see that Cummings is a snake, best held at arms length

Or close to your bosom depending on what he knows about you and what you want to achieve ?