Spain: this is what happens when you close the schools

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Families leaving Madrid and heading for the coast are spreading the virus throughout the country. A week ago the province of Murcia was only getting its first case of coronavirus.

This is what happens if you close schools and don’t put other restrictions in place. The objective with closing schools is for people to stay at home...ffs!

This is exactly what happened in Italy. Milan and Bologna closed down, thousands of second home owners went down to Rimini - second hot spot.

When schools closed in China we didn’t all bugger off for a mini break As the Chinese shut everything. Never, I have been so glad not to live in a democracy...

This is what lots of selfish British people were planning to do on Facebook holidays groups I'm in. I spent all day yesterday telling people they are selfish to travel at the moment and got swore at numerous times.

They are selfish and bonkers...this situation is going to get worse and people moving around and then expecting to be able to get back after going on holiday are just a strain on resources which are better served elsewhere.
Many people were critical of the measures the Chinese took eg people being removed from their homes, but based on the stupid decisions some people make, it is clear why drastic measures are sometimes taken...

All schools closed in Switzerland now too. I'm a teacher.... work goes on we have to teach remotely. I'll be homeschooling my own kids too.

At least with the schools open you know where the children and teenagers are and who they have been into contact with. Close the secondary schools and lots of the teens will go somewhere else to mix with friends from outside of school or families will go on holidays

This is what lots of selfish British people were planning to do on Facebook holidays groups I'm in. I spent all day yesterday telling people they are selfish to travel at the moment and got swore at numerous times.

AIBU unreasonable to hope that if there must be serious cases they overlap hugely with the people not taking this seriously?

Oh great. I live in an English holiday/second homes area with inadequate infrastructure, few large supermarkets & an underfunded council.

Yipee.

We closed yesterday here in Ireland and myself and my children will be staying put in the house for the next 2 weeks. I dont know of anyone who is travelling anywhere. Very little activity on the streets today from what I've seen/ heard.

Saw a discussion on YouTube with an epidemiologist. He said that younger children are the least likely to die, though they are carriers. His view was, if you close the schools, be prepared for all of the nurses with children to take off work. Also, people are treating this like it is just for a few weeks. Like a blizzard he said, instead of winter.

I'm heading off to Cornwall for a week to get out of London. Is that allowed if I'm symptom free?

Happening here already.

I live in a village with a large caravan park just outside. It is already filling up with more caravans trundling by each day.

We’ve just been sent our guidance for online schooling. A little bit reassuring. Though how I will drag 2 lazy hormonal teenagers to do work god only knows! Never felt the desire for home schooling!

Exactly - no school, no state organised childcare which is usually so great in European counties - grandparents supposed to be kept at a distance - so both parents can no longer work - total mayhem.

London might become very quiet ... lovely.

I live in Spain. In our region schools close for 2 weeks from tomorrow. People are generally talking about staying at home. The attitude is that we need to pull together, nobody is talking about going to the coast.
Spain has just declared a state of emergency, Madrid is shutting everything down. The rest of Spain may follow.
It's coming to you to in the UK. At least in Spain our prime minister hasn't told us "many of you will die" and thinks it's fine to rely on herd immunity.

But there is a halfway house.
So you could say that anyone in a household with someone vulnerable can keep their kids off school without being fined.
Or you close holiday parks/caravan sites.
You just don't say - well we can't do anything because some people are stupid. That is the Government approach. Some people are stupid so we won't do anything.

Also in the UK it is already all round the country from Cornwall to Shetland. It is not like it is confined to one area of the country.

Exactly - no school, no state organised childcare which is usually so great in European counties - grandparents supposed to be kept at a distance - so both parents can no longer work - total mayhem.

I can't comment on Spain, but in France, the government is organising childcare for all essential workers.

I only know one family sending the DC to grandparents. Everyone else says they are avoiding contact with grandparents.

And since Boris has said we will all mostly get it, why would he care of people went on holiday?

Honestly this is not an argument for not closing schools to all but essential workers kids.

Yep

croissantsatdawn excellent username!

“ in France, the government is organising childcare for all essential workers. ”

How does that work and who provides the care?

The Government are constantly contradictory. On one hand - most will get it, it will give herd immunity.
And on the otherhand - we can't close schools because thsi will spread the virus.
Either you want nearly everyone to get it or you don't.

The Government think we are stupid and won't notice the inconsistencies.

The reason they don't want schools to close is to keep the economy going.

London's pretty empty already, my (very MC) part of south west London, anyway. People are heading to their second homes - everyone I know who has one is driving there right now. I know people heading to the New Forest, Suffolk, Cornwall...

Which makes it nicer for us staying put!