Spain: this is what happens when you close the schools

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Families leaving Madrid and heading for the coast are spreading the virus throughout the country. A week ago the province of Murcia was only getting its first case of coronavirus.

I'm in Ireland and this response is not what we have seen. The kids have all been sent home either with work packs or are logging in to virtual classrooms /email taught classes at usual class times.

Parents/children have been advised to limit social interaction by young people as otherwise it will defeat the purpose of them being at home. So far, this seems to be being observed on a widescale basis.

Whether it lasts more than two weeks will be very tricky unless people see real benefits of the social distancing policy - i.e. slower growth in cases here compared to elsewhere.

But no mad rush to take holidays - travel is currently dramatically curtailed by social pressure....strong appeals by Govt for community solidarity and action seems to be reasonably successful (with some notably idiotic exceptions e.g. panic buying)

They would need to put strict travel bans in place at the same time.

The govt say they want most to get it but slow the spread. Pretty consistent message.

Not sure if it’s the right one but it’s pretty clear!

Same here in Andalucía. Kids have been sent home today with two weeks' work to do and we are being told to isolate as much as possible.

Honestly well off people with second homes will be more likely to be able to work from home. They will head to second homes whether the Government closes schools or not.
Only us plebs are supposed to keep sending our kids there. Because we have to keep the economy going.

Growing oh, you’re in a posh bit? My rough area of London is the same except the shops are heaving.

@Lumene They are doing nothing to stop the spread. Allowing Cheltenham to go ahead?
It is about the economy. Nothing more.

No, that's what happens when you close schools to stop your children getting or spreading a virus in a pandemic and selfish friggin people decide it's a holiday and they should congregate on beaches.
Idiots.
People are told it's for the safety of themselves and their families but don't stay put...

Closing for two weeks? What happens then? They did say that they expected the peek in a couple of months. If you're isolating to reduce the risk of catching it then you need to be of for months.

“Many of you will die” says a glib Boris ...... That’s The aim of the last 10 years of conservative austerity policy surely?
Another clueless short term policy disciple of a PM .
Will he be starting paternity leave early I wonder?

I am taking my kids out of school from Monday. Seriously consider it everyone if you can. I do know not everyone can.

If they're providing care for the kids then they might as well stay in school!

@BigFatLiar China is seeing a real decline in cases now. So not 4 months of closure. And they had far more cases than we currently have.

Double whammy here, we live in a retirement area, with second homes and a lot of tourism. Our hospitals/gps/residential homes struggle with the pensioners needing a lot of care add the whammy of tourism at the end of this month from camping through to hotel accommodation/secondhomes/airbnb, we are pretty stuffed.

@HollowTalk It will be for essential workers. So lots of kids will not be in childcare. It is a balancing act.

And some countries are closing schools for 2 weeks and then assessing. They need to analyse information and decide what to do. After 2 weeks is easter holidays anyway, so one month kids will be away.

Yep @AutumnRose1 - I said it's very MC. Most of the 4x4s have left, it's just the occasional Ocado van now...

Even if they don’t close the schools, I’m worried about Cornwall (where I live) getting a huge spike over the Easter holidays. According to the reports there are only 5 cases here as of yesterday. I’m sure that will all change in a few weeks when everyone heads down here for the school holidays. Our main hospital goes on black alert at the drop of a hat every year. It’s not going to cope.

Is the solution banning all non essential travel? Or do we need as a county to get more infections to get some immunity to it? If travel is banned over Easter it would financially cripple a lot of businesses.

I’ve no idea, it’s such a head fuck.

China is seeing a real decline in cases now. So not 4 months of closure. And they had far more cases than we currently have.

Yes but they didn't do much until it was getting out of hand. There was a woman on local radio talking about her visit to friends in China and she was saying that she knew before she went about the virus in China but the advice at the time was still to go. When she got there her friend knew nothing about it. They went touring around China and it was only at the end of her holiday that China started telling the people about it and putting in measures, several weeks after the rest of the world knew.

Never, I have been so glad not to live in a democracy...

What a fucking stupid comment.

We just got this from my son's primary school "A school closure would not be a holiday and the children will be expected to continue their learning. The expectations for their learning will be provided via parentmail from their class teachers and TAs."

I suppose it's easy enough to do that from somewhere other than home, but we will be staying put for sure as 1) it's what you're meant to do 2) I work from home anyway so no change for me.

Closing for two weeks? What happens then? They reassess. There's only a week between then and the one-week easter break, so they may extned and make it a total of a month without school.

My daughters uni is closing from Monday and lectures will be online , lots of students will head home on public transport

Lots of universities have plans to close. They are putting staff and students first.

All schools and shops apart from supermarkets and pharmacies will be closed here as from Monday. All but essential workers to work from home. It will become illegal to rent air b and b, hotels etc so nobody can go on holiday to another part of the country.
There is no 2 week deadline either, just as from Monday, until further notice. There was no panic buying at shops yesterday when I went, loo roll and hand sanitizer plenty, and shelves all stocked. Most people only seemed to be buy that days worth of groceries as no full trollies.