worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

• to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
• to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure
read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

Thanks OP

Thanks for the new thread.

Any idea what time today's Cobra meeting is?

And does anyone have any insight into what the outcomes might be? Perhaps new measures, moving to delay phase, less stringent testing measures?

Thanks for the new thread. I’ve been lurking and I must admit I’ve been fairly relaxed up until now. Email from the school my DCs attend, this morning states that PHE advice is to not close if there is a suspected or confirmed case of COVID-19. This has concerned me because we are a small village school, where movement of children throughout the school isn’t restricted (ie all year groups mix together at several points throughout the day). It’s a village with multiple generations of families and so a good percentage of those in the vulnerable groups. It’s also a village where a good proportion of the population work in a healthcare setting.

The advice doesn’t make sense to me. Can someone elaborate or make it make sense to me please?

It all seems very unreal today as though I'm watching a film or reading a book. No one in RL seems bothered.

Thanks for the new thread.

Thanks for the new thread op.

I’ve made a petition – will you sign it?

Click this link to sign the petition:
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/301320/sponsors/new?token=zK2VS-6SdxEsERLpa1Uu

My petition:

Let parents remove children from school without fines - now! #coronavirus

Social distancing. With community spread children are taking the virus home to parents.

Social distancing, flatten the peak. Kids are term factories

Click this link to sign the petition:
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/301320/sponsors/new?token=zK2VS-6SdxEsERLpa1Uu

NEW: Belgium reports 47 new cases of coronavirus as officials say hospital data suggests this could be "the start of a real epidemic" t.co/eUoE2b20hL
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www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/11/coronavirus-update-live-news-uk-health-minister-italy-lockdown-australia-us-china-stock-markets-outbreak-latest-updates Good live updates...

They want the kids to get it for herd immunity I think

Fine but what about parents with health issues. We can't avoid it. My dd blew raspberries in my face 3 times this week. They cough and sneeze

@Jerseygaly there is already a petition which has passed the threshold for closure of schools petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Checking in

I’m not sure if I want schools to shut generally at the moment.

I’m finding it all a bit hard to wrap my head around at the moment to be honest.

Are you feeling better Bercow? I'm still the same, sore head, throat, feel rubbish. DS thé same. In normal times would be unremarkable but it's hard not to get a bit worried.

I would like a definite response either way @L1appelDuVide as I need to get things in line if that is a possibility as it will be me who will need to take time out of work/work from home. My husband works in retail and will only get SSP as opposed to me who will just get paid if i work from home.

I think working in retail means that if they shut too, he will not get paid.

Thanks for the new thread, @usernameishistory 💐

Newsbulletin (lighthearted) the CJT Household has only 1 packet of wholemeal pasta left....

Spain reports 372 new cases of coronavirus and 11 new deaths, raising total to 2,067 cases and 47 dead t.co/eUoE2b20hL
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MangePasTesOnglesVilain still feeling rubbish. Thank you for asking and sorry to hear you're still unwell. It is worrying, I agree.

"There are no plans to test any UK ministers, including Boris Johnson, for coronavirus after Health Minister Nadine Dorries become the first MP to be diagnosed with Covid-19, PA reports.

The Department of Health and Social Care said ministers would not need to undergo testing as Public Health England worked to advise those who have been in close contact with Dorries.

PHE said it had assessed the risk of Dorries’ individual close contacts and only those with symptoms need to self-isolate. For each Covid-19 case, a risk assessment is carried out and advice tailored to that group, a spokeswoman said."
Guardian

This makes no sense... anyone who may possibly have been in contatc with her should be tested. She herself has said 'My staff member has gone down with it too. I haven't yet given a list to the contact tracers. Hard to remember every single person I was in contact with last week. If you sat next to me in the tea room or library etc please let me know'.

I certainly don’t want schools closed! Stupid people will take their kids on cheap holidays and bring back more coronavirus. Or they’ll take them to parks and cafes to spread disease to everyone instead of being safely contained in schools.

just to add to perspective,
Poland have confirmed 25 cases, from tomorrow all cinemas, theatres, etc are closed.
And all nurseries, schools, high schools and unis are closed.

cjt we were down to two loo rolls

I absolutely kid you not

Boris was at the commonwealth service on Sunday.

I can see the headline in the daily fail 'Boris kills Queen'

Im shocked he doesn't get tested. He is after all the PM, he must be in contact with sooo many people. He has a responsibility to do the right thing.

I'm so glad they are stepping up testing.

However I'm a bit cynical too as the big numbers found will time nicely with the more severe measures.

As I have said before, they are manipulating the public psyche-I'm sure an essential part of pandemic management.