worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

• to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
• to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure
read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

It’s obviously because the government don’t want the correct data isn’t it?

I agree horehound

It needs to be at the right time. I suspect a lot of posters just want to hate on anything the government does.

I think we need a new petition — one that demands testing for those with clear symptoms of Covid-19, irrespective of travel to an out of date list of places.

There is community spread and we must adhere to WHO advice to do our best to aggressively contain it!

What would you be doing if you were me? I'm neutropenic so high risk for neutropenic sepsis, prone to chest/throat type things
The neutropenia means I don't fight off bacterial infections And I'm getting worried. But my job isn't really one I can do from home unless it gets desperate

Still listening to this: just said testing is not reliable for those who are not symptomatic. That's not what the WHO said this afternoon, who were criticising govts not testing those linked people to a known case.

Again, denial that groups of people gathering has any kind of risk of spreading the virus, and ignoring that more vulnerable people in that group need to be able to make decisions to protect themselves. Just ignored that part altogether.

@defthand I agree and would sign it

They want to advise a lockdown/self isolation when we are nearer peak to protect more people rather than do it now and then everyone get bored and start going out again in two weeks when it's likely to peak

Can you help out with where this information about the government's tactics is from?

The vacuum of information is a real problem.

I'm not sure that is their tactic, though. If that was their tactic, why not just say that- instead of saying "we've got no plans to close schools ever". If they have a plan, then share it with us- that will help people feel reassured.

Right now it really does feel like either they have no plan, or they plan to let this tear through the population and mop up the consequences afterwards.

school closures can only happen if the children are then not send to grandparents when parents need to continue to work.

Again I maintain they should just stop the fines and advise anyone who wants to withdraw their children to do so

I am worried for the 1/5 who need o2 that they may not get taken seriously enough to even get to hospital, if they can even get through.

I don't think right now you need to worry about someone who needs O2 not getting treatment. As a pp said, there is 999 for that. The issue right now is they won't get tested if they can't show any kind of immediate link to a confirmed case or country (but having shown up in hospital, I'd guess they probably will then).

But non-infected children being sent to grandparents are not a risk. Children going to school, catching a mild case and spreading it to their grandparents during the Easter holidays are surely more of a risk?

can someone make a new thread please

@NeckPainChairSearch Matt Hancock literally just said that isolation measures are important however previous pandemics have demonstrated that the public are only willing to adhere to isolation measures for a short period of time therefore implementing measures too early may make them less effective when they are most critical.

Makes sense to me

Aren't you watching??

confusedandtired99 I saw a clip the other week about the guys who came up with the test. it's a breath test.

They where preparing to leave to another country to put it through its paces and make sure it works. So yes it probably is already being used in other countries. Why didn't their own country let them test it here?

austria for example are closing schools from next week but provide childcare for those who do not have any other options.

I love my DGC but will not be looking after them if schools are closed. I'm not prepared to put my DH at risk.

Sounds like some of you need to chill out a bit, maybe go self isolate yourselves in a silent retreat somewhere and do some yogic breathing or something

Actually, if you are admitted to hospital with respiratory symptoms, you should now be tested- guidance here: www.gov.uk/government/publications/wuhan-novel-coronavirus-initial-investigation-of-possible-cases/investigation-and-initial-clinical-management-of-possible-cases-of-wuhan-novel-coronavirus-wn-cov-infection#criteria

Although in a way at that stage it doesn't matter to you- the treatment is probably similar/the same regardless. It does however matter to stop the spread of the disease to other vulnerable patients.

@hankyspanky there is a new thread.. just look in the coronavirus topic..

@ClientQueen If I was you, I’d get myself signed off sick with stress and then avoid going out at all if possible. I have structural heart problems which could make Coronavirus very nasty and I’m not going out at all right now. I’m bored and lonely but the risk is just too great.

They where preparing to leave to another country to put it through its paces and make sure it works. So yes it probably is already being used in other countries. Why didn't their own country let them test it here?

I would imagine they need statistically significant numbers of known cases to test it on and ours aren't all even in one town.

Weapon-

I can't see that anyone answered your question about temperature. In Fahrenheit, normal body temperature is 98.6. It sounds like you do have a fever, but not a severe one.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3845530-Worried-about-Coronavirus-Covid-19-Part-22?watched=1

New thread as this is filling so quickly, hope i've done it right?!!

People on here are absolutely obsessed with fucking schools closing.
If it's done at the wrong time I imagine things could get worse since people will rely on the older generation to help with childcare.