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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 10:58

Next thread

previous thread here

Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

  • to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
  • to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure

read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

Flowers thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

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RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 11/03/2020 11:20

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L1appelDuVide · 11/03/2020 11:20

Same @cjt110.

I work in healthcare and will have to put something into place. We’re right at the end of the holiday year (3 weeks left to go!) and as it stands I’ll be taking any time off as unpaid leave. DH is self employed working in schools and so if schools shut, he shuts too and loses ££££s.

Actually, I think I’ve been burying my head in the sand....

NcFortuna · 11/03/2020 11:21

Dorries always was one of the stupider MPs.

JeansNTees · 11/03/2020 11:22

I've finally signed the schools petition. Ours has run out of soap and there is no hand gel after kids do the biometric fingerprint for their lunches, and this is after someone from the school is self isolating after being in close contact with a confirmed case. Madness.

Monst3ra · 11/03/2020 11:23

De-lurking to say thank you for these threads.

We're due to fly to Canada for the Easter holidays to see DH's family. It's taken years to save for this trip and we're taking all 5 DC so is costing thousands. Now I'm not sure what is going to happen or if we'll even be able to go. DH's parents are elderly and the main reason for going is for him to see his terminally ill DS. DC haven't met DH's family so this has been a long awaited trip. At the moment we're not sure what to do. Advice from everyone I've spoken with has said to just go but it seems pretty risky, chances are in 4 weeks time the number of cases here in the UK will have jumped and at Gatwick and on the plane who knows who we'll be in direct contact with. DH is wary but is so focussed on his very sick DS that I'm trying not to say much at the moment until it's a closer to the time.

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 11:25

@usernameishistory we have... 6 i think.

ToughGuy · 11/03/2020 11:25

Today feels very strange. I feel like I am on a freight train to Crazy Town. Confused

CrapTVAddict · 11/03/2020 11:26

I would place money on Boris and others being tested secretly in order not to panic the public.
Cannot believe how irresponsible Nadine was attending meetings whilst feeling ill under current times

TokyoSushi · 11/03/2020 11:28

Checking in, let's see what today's COBRA brings...

BookMeOnTheSudExpress · 11/03/2020 11:28

We've just had all the streets closed around a block and fumigated etc. It looked as though they were about to take people away forcibly (as they did Monday evening) but it turned out to be people pegging dead bats on their clothes drier to dry them out.

Not fake news. Hmm

For people new to the thread this is Italy. (The batshit bat driers are Chinese, which is so going to help community relations)

AnneKipanki · 11/03/2020 11:30

If Nadine had come to my workplace we would be shut for at least 2 weeks.

Rocketmam · 11/03/2020 11:32

Is Cobra still happening today?

buttermilkwaffles · 11/03/2020 11:32

Statement by the Health Secretary in the Commons on Coronavirus at 7pm tonight.
Source: mobile.twitter.com/alexpartridge87/status/1237700575250317312

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 11/03/2020 11:33

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MangePasTesOnglesVilain · 11/03/2020 11:33

*AnneK
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I only just got your nickname GrinHad imagined you as a tall Finnish woman..

Exochord · 11/03/2020 11:33

Chinese are eating bats in Italy? Wtf? Why is the government not cracking down on this disgusting and dangerous behaviour?

MangePasTesOnglesVilain · 11/03/2020 11:34

That statement sounds very significant.

AnneKipanki · 11/03/2020 11:34

That is exactly what I look like Mange !

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 11:34

@buttermilkwaffles Thanks for that. Interesting.

DressingGownofDoom · 11/03/2020 11:35

Thanks for the new thread. I wonder what today will bring!

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 11:35

@MangePasTesOnglesVilain My thoughts too...

MangePasTesOnglesVilain · 11/03/2020 11:37

*cj
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In my mind you are Reggie Perrin's boss-for anyone old enough to remember..

MangePasTesOnglesVilain · 11/03/2020 11:38

Sorry everyone. I miss the silly banter threads...

NerrSnerr · 11/03/2020 11:38

I go into care homes in my county as part of my job and as of today the homes are starting to stop people from visiting. The one I went to on Monday was business as usual, no extra hand gel, no signs, nothing.

ofwarren · 11/03/2020 11:38

Unqualified nursing students drafted in to help hospitals amid coronavirus outbreak, NHS boss reveals t.co/G8utI1aGEz
The independent