worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

• to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
• to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure
read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

1/ The government is taking action that is coordinated, coherent and comprehensive on COVID-19. This thread outlines some of the support in #Budget2020. t.co/73GazU49tu
The treasury

@neepandtatties I guess with lap dancing you have no choice but to be in close contact with people. You are going to be at risk. I would enforce ensuring people are washing their hands before you dance on them. Face masks if you're that worried. If you pole dance perhaps wiping the pole with a wipe before you dance on it?

The government is throwing billions of pounds at the problem so they must be expecting it to get pretty bad.

Bundesliga player tests positive for coronavirus t.co/okRGZnsZOD
The independent

Jeremy Corbyn says people shouldn't have to "make a choice between spreading the virus because they have to go to work, or staying at home and self-isolating" because they're on zero hours contracts.

But the PM says "we will ensure that they will get the protection they need." t.co/D25I1zdi0Q
Channel 4 news

Business rates will be ABOLISHED this year for thousands of businesses #Budget2020
ITV

They could have and should have tried harder to stop it reaching here. I am scared of an Italy like situation regarding NHS

'I'm also temporarily removing the minimum income floor in Universal Credit and I'm relaxing the requirement for anyone to physically attend a Job Centre'

Rishi Sunak lays out measures to protect those on low incomes who self-isolate over #coronavirus #Budget2020 t.co/urM5PfUFbW
ITV

Our small company has made the proactive step to homeworking for the foreseeable future eek!

Thank you for the sensible answer spencer . I could just not work, It's second income and I'm not desperate. Luckily most of my customers are regulars who I know to be hygienic people but, the clubs not going to be the cleanest place is it and they may wash their hands but then touch the bar, banister, money etc... I'll wipe the pole that's not a problem, I do that anyway just wondered what peopl felt the risk would be for me, is it any different to going to the pub or a social event? Does the fact I'm wearing very little put me at more risk?

Do we honestly think that the Chief Medical Officer has not considered viral loads?

#Budget2020 latest:

Chancellor announces £500m boost for self-employed workers hit by #coronavirus

t.co/hwDqCBaGfl

Is there cobra today?

Interesting info from a U.K. ICU doctor on this AMA Reddit thread. American doctor asks if they’re starting to see signs of a surge:

“Are you guys starting to feel the heat and in what way? Just gathering info because we will cancel elective procedures to open up beds and units if the surge is to be expected. We have prepared more in 5 days than we have in 6 weeks.”

level 2
dr_hcid
UK Critical Care Physician
186 points
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16 hours ago

“Absolutely. In a little over a week our (national) critical care occupancy for COVID has increased from 1 to ~20. There are a number of patients now on ECMO.

Perhaps more worryingly, we have positive tests in a number of inpatients, on open wards, across different sites, with no travel history.
A significant number of new diagnoses are patients presenting to the emergency department with hypoxaemia, fever, lymphopaenia, bilateral CXR infiltrates. This wasn't happening a week ago.

Trusts are putting plans in place to cancel elective procedures and escalation plans for ICU capacity, but these are all local, hospital plans.”

www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fgfspi/im_a_critical_care_doctor_working_in_a_uk_hcid/

Well they may have quite a bit of money from pension savings ... (Care homes ..)

Yes I suspect it must have been around for awhile and we are only picking up a small percentage

can't see anywhere that austria closes all schools?
link?

@juneybean- well done. This is the right move to make if you can do it.

Just had a call from the GP receptionist. All appointments for the next 4 weeks will be telephone only.

Are they still announcing new cases around 2pm? With a statement from Twatcock at 7pm?

@L1appelDuVide re: schools staying open, yep that's correct that's the phe advise. We have a confirmed case in the school I work in. Student was in last week but then diagnosed over the weekend. As they weren't displaying any symptoms whilst in school then there is no risk to anyone else and therefore we remain business as usual. Not even shutting for a deep clean.
I would love to know who is advising phe as it is completely contrary to everything the WHO advise. Why has anyone come back and gone straight into quarantine if they are non infectious until symptoms?

@Neepandtatties I would have thought it was the close contact that makes you more at risk than the lack of clothes, because it's a virus that you either breathe in or transfer to your airways via touching your face. I'm not an expert, that's just my evaluation. If you can take some time off, I would.
It's probably not that different to a pub or gathering but people are going to be social-distancing from/at them now.

I wonder if I'm future we will see more WFH and less air travel for business meetings? It's nice to see less cars in the road and that can only be a good thing for the environment. With modern technology there's just no need for all these business meetings abroad. Waste of money, time and resources when it could be done by phone or Skype.

As they weren't displaying any symptoms whilst in school then there is no risk to anyone else

This isn't true.

People are infectious before they have symptoms aren't they? What bullshite are PHE peddling?

As they weren't displaying any symptoms whilst in school then there is no risk to anyone else and therefore we remain business as usual.

Is this correct? Does anyone have any links to any credible sources that give an answer either way?