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Conflict in the Middle East

Israeli army strapped wounded Palestinian to jeep

486 replies

pandasorous · 23/06/2024 07:24

just going to leave this here....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqq5n8911do

if you have nothing compassionate to say, feel free to move on and not comment on this thread. feel sick to my stomach

Video showing Palestinian man strapped to front of jeep

Israeli army strapped wounded Palestinian to jeep

The Israeli military says the man was a suspect in a raid in the West Bank, but its forces violated protocol.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqq5n8911do

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anotherlevel · 28/06/2024 10:18

@Mellowdramadrama agreed

anotherlevel · 28/06/2024 22:52

ConnieCounter · 28/06/2024 10:07

I wonder will any of the posters here who were so dismissive of this event, suggesting he was a terrorist, laughing at those of us who said that he was being used as a human shield, or even suggesting that the IDF were doing him a favour, will revise their earlier comments?

Tumbleweed...

ConnieCounter · 28/06/2024 23:45

anotherlevel · 28/06/2024 22:52

Tumbleweed...

That's disappointing.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 29/06/2024 00:39

ConnieCounter · 28/06/2024 23:45

That's disappointing.

But not surprising, unfortunately.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 29/06/2024 12:51

anotherlevel · 28/06/2024 22:52

Tumbleweed...

More tumbleweeds......

Notaflippinclue · 29/06/2024 13:02

If you were in a jeep surrounded by hostiles who wanted to kill you would you
a) wait to get killed
b) tie one of the hostiles to your jeep and drive away safely

ConnieCounter · 29/06/2024 13:07

Notaflippinclue · 29/06/2024 13:02

If you were in a jeep surrounded by hostiles who wanted to kill you would you
a) wait to get killed
b) tie one of the hostiles to your jeep and drive away safely

He was a civilian though.

Notaflippinclue · 29/06/2024 13:29

How do you tell a civilian from a hostile?

Mellowdramadrama · 29/06/2024 13:40

Notaflippinclue · 29/06/2024 13:29

How do you tell a civilian from a hostile?

As I said, treated as guilty until proven innocent.

How do you tell a (Palestinian) civilian from a hostile?

You are correct that this is how the Palestinian civilians are seen, hence the high death rate even in the occupied west bank.

Scirocco · 29/06/2024 13:55

People shouldn't be strapping anyone to the front of a vehicle.

This man has been reported to have been known to be a civilian. He was injured and needed medical assistance, but instead had more harm inflicted upon him.

And people still try to justify it.

Dulra · 29/06/2024 14:03

Notaflippinclue · 29/06/2024 13:02

If you were in a jeep surrounded by hostiles who wanted to kill you would you
a) wait to get killed
b) tie one of the hostiles to your jeep and drive away safely

Why are you inventing a completely fictitious scenario in an attempt to justify it?
If! If my granny had.....well we know the rest

ScrollingLeaves · 29/06/2024 14:12

Mellowdramadrama · 29/06/2024 13:40

As I said, treated as guilty until proven innocent.

How do you tell a (Palestinian) civilian from a hostile?

You are correct that this is how the Palestinian civilians are seen, hence the high death rate even in the occupied west bank.

Edited

Even if he had been ‘a hostile’ as you put it, the IDF itself think this behaviour against their rules.

The IDF doesn’t want the world to think of them as being barbaric.

ScrollingLeaves · 29/06/2024 14:14

So sorry, that was to

“Notaflippinclue · Today 13:29
How do you tell a civilian from a hostile?”

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 29/06/2024 14:58

Notaflippinclue · 29/06/2024 13:29

How do you tell a civilian from a hostile?

A “hostile” is an adult aiming a lethal weapon at you.

EasterIssland · 29/06/2024 15:47

Notaflippinclue · 29/06/2024 13:02

If you were in a jeep surrounded by hostiles who wanted to kill you would you
a) wait to get killed
b) tie one of the hostiles to your jeep and drive away safely

This is not what happened though. The jeep wasn’t surrounded at any point

Mellowdramadrama · 29/06/2024 15:58

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 29/06/2024 14:58

A “hostile” is an adult aiming a lethal weapon at you.

Yes, bring to question who exactly was the hostile in this situation.
The unarmed civilian or the armed military occupation soldier who shot him.

Notaflippinclue · 29/06/2024 16:07

Or someone concealing a weapon or a sniper - I wasn't there but from the tiny video clip who knows - every soldier in action must have to presume there are hostile forces infiltrating civilian situations as soldiers have found out to there cost

EasterIssland · 29/06/2024 17:34

Notaflippinclue · 29/06/2024 16:07

Or someone concealing a weapon or a sniper - I wasn't there but from the tiny video clip who knows - every soldier in action must have to presume there are hostile forces infiltrating civilian situations as soldiers have found out to there cost

You weren’t there. Fair point. The. Why make up stories about what happened? IDF has said the behaviour of the soldiers that took part doesn’t adhiere to their values. So even IDF are not happy with it but here you’re making up stories about something that didn’t happen to justify that did happen and that was wrong

anotherlevel · 29/06/2024 22:37

Notaflippinclue · 29/06/2024 16:07

Or someone concealing a weapon or a sniper - I wasn't there but from the tiny video clip who knows - every soldier in action must have to presume there are hostile forces infiltrating civilian situations as soldiers have found out to there cost

You're right. You weren't there and as your username suggests you haven't got a flipping clue about what happened and who the civilian was.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 30/06/2024 14:02

Notaflippinclue · 29/06/2024 16:07

Or someone concealing a weapon or a sniper - I wasn't there but from the tiny video clip who knows - every soldier in action must have to presume there are hostile forces infiltrating civilian situations as soldiers have found out to there cost

Well according to the interview, he says that after they’d shot him twice and he was laying on the ground, they saw he was an unarmed civilian and not a militant. They still decided to push away his family trying to call an ambulance, strip him to the waist and beat him. Throw him on the scorching hot jeep by swinging him back and forth, tie him down like a hunted deer. Then drive back and forth, going past ambulances for around 20mins like he was a trophy animal, before stopping (not outside his home), shoving him off the jeep so he fell to the ground and then leaving him for other civilians in his town to creep out and take him to a hospital.

AhNowTed · 30/06/2024 20:57

EasterIssland · 30/06/2024 20:32

The most moral.....

ScrollingLeaves · 30/06/2024 23:22

EasterIssland · 30/06/2024 20:57

Little boys with too big toys and sick minds.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 30/06/2024 23:57

EasterIssland · 30/06/2024 20:57

Horrific. 😢 I hoped Jamal Hamdi Hassan Ashour was already dead when he was ran over. I'm very sad to hear that he was alive when it happened. 💔 I'm also sorry to hear that he wasn't the only one the IDF done this to.