Israeli army strapped wounded Palestinian to jeep

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just going to leave this here....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqq5n8911do

if you have nothing compassionate to say, feel free to move on and not comment on this thread. feel sick to my stomach

His version of events isn’t new though. It matches up with what his family and other witnesses have reported as well as the video footage.

What doesn’t match up with the video footage is the story that IDF were swiftly transporting him to get medical help while they ignored and passed no fewer than three ambulances, and definitely did not take him to a hospital but left him in the road for others to assist.

How convenient. It’s almost as though it just happened and there were no witnesses left alive.

ETA: Just found out that there were witnesses so you weren’t being very truthful.

Also why else would Israel say they’d investigate if it was all done by book by I guess that’s also conveniently overlooked.

@ForKookyPoet

"So where does the non law breaking come into your argument?"

Let me explain.

If a person is held without charge, never mind trial, they have broken no law.

Administrative detention is Israel's own term for holding people without charge indefinitely, and I'm surprised you don't know that.

Why would you laugh about innocent children being detained unlawfully?

Exactly, the IDF command has said the soldiers would be investigated for misconduct as the video is pretty damming.

At the start of this thread a poster found it hilarious when I mentioned that this is another example of a Palestinian being used as a human shield. As if the IDF have not, and continued for decades to do so.
If they are still on this thread you can read this:

From US state department Matthew Miller:
“This practice is absolutely unacceptable. Humans should never be used as human shields. The IDF should swiftly investigate what happened and hold people accountable,”

This thread is a masterclass in Hasbara. It's quite something to witness in real time.

@US2gether I think you’ll find that the US has apparently proposed a ceasefire plan, but Israel seems to have its own plans. Let’s not forget that there are many conscientious objectors within Israel who are opposed to Israel’s violent actions and simply want peace. October 7th didn’t just happen in a vacuum so let’s not ignore the domino effect that lead to it happening in the first place.

The proposed ceasefire plan with hamas changes. As I mentioned.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/jun/12/israel-gaza-war-middle-east-hamas-ceasefire-deal-lebanon-hezbollah

You then go off on a tangent. The current conflict stemed from Oct 7th. This level of conflict occurred because of what happened that day. The incursion, the deaths and the hostage taking.

A poster claiming shani louk wasn't raped and murdered was indeed odd.

Same poster claiming things abouts dogs, vile and incorrect.

Those lies need correction.

And Netanyahu wanted to continue the war after getting the hostages back. Eg he did not agree to a permanent ceasefire.

So Hamas and Netanyahu are not in agreement.

Is that your way of suggesting hamas had no choice? It happened because....

Can that suggest you support the action of hamas since you understand why....

I was replying to poster suggesting Israel not in agreement 'they had there on plans' to correct to show hamas didn't actually agree either.

Both sides are far apart. Hamas don't care about innocent Palestinian people they just want power and control. Israel want to smash hamas. Around in circles they go and children die.

No there isn’t a “current” conflict. It’s an ongoing conflict. October 7th did not happen in a vacuum. Instead of accusing me of going off on a tangent, perhaps it’s you who is trying to derail the thread. If you were to simply Google “Netanyahu says war will continue”, you will see even more recent information so don’t try to blame Hamas for everything. You should hold Israel to the same moral and legal standards as Hamas. Going back to the OP, let’s see what investigations will come up for this recent fiasco. Still curious if it will go in the same direction as the investigation into what happened to the World Central Kitchen.

I'm referring to those who discount all facts and evidence and stick to the script that Israel is always right, even if we can see with our own eyeballs that they are not and even when they've admitted that they've done wrong, they're still right.

Let's hope the full rigors of the law is applied to them

Also @US2gether I’m curious to see where I went off on tangent? Is it the part where I wrote earlier on up thread: Let’s not forget that there are many conscientious objectors within Israel who are opposed to Israel’s violent actions and simply want peace.

It’s pretty clear Israel has other plans, many articles even up to the ones published even yesterday and today indicate this, to imply otherwise is being disingenuous.

I think there was a post saying this was the normal way to carry the wounded in WW11.

I looked it up and saw this example of carrying wounded soldiers by some medics turning the jeep into a makeshift ambulance. They have put a platform on the hood of the jeep first, then put the soldiers wrapped in blankets against the cold (treated them with care), on stretchers, then attached those to the platform. I assume they did not have proper ambulances near by.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lee-ekstrom/6395368063

Netanyahu says he'll only accept ‘partial’ ceasefire in Gaza, sparking anger among hostage families https://jrnl.ie/6417399

Yes Netanyahu has said himself he'll only agree to a partial ceasefire to release some hostages but will continue the conflict because their main aim is getting rid of Hamas

If there weren’t any witnesses and no evidence of wrongdoing, why is there going to be an investigation?

I'd like to know what actually happened there as if you're injured in the UK in a remote area you can find yourself strapped to a helicopter.

It's all in how you read it isn't it.

No, those two situations are not comparable in any way.

As said before, Israel has other plans. But somehow there doesn’t seem to be evidence each time a hospital is destroyed, which is a war crime, on the pretext of Hamas being there. Israel will always use Hamas to continue fighting in the full knowledge that Israel wants to create more settlements and expand West Bank settlements. But somehow it’s somehow the fault of Hamas when even the ICJ says Palestinians can defend themselves from genocide. So even if a hypothetical world, there wasn’t a Hamas, Israel would still be at war because Palestinians would want to defend their homes and refugees will want to return to their homes one day. Palestinians are being displaced and have had to flee their homes. So somehow this is all the fault of Hamas? This is an ongoing conflict that will not end as long as Israel continues its, often, illegal and disproportionate measures as well as its expansionist policies but somehow only Hamas who are stopping the peace process

Not like that you don't. Or if you do, you should report it to PALS, the GMC and the police.