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AIBU to snap after my husband compared me to his sister-in-law?

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SassyNavyHam · 12/09/2026 22:25

My husband and I had a fight last night which turned into a long talking session about our marital issues, our insecurities, and what we feel we are missing in a partner.

To his credit he really did listen and try to understand my pov, but what hurt is he kept comparing me to his brother's wife. Every example of what he wanted somehow went back to his brother and SIL. She is funny, she can take a joke, she doesn't worry about little things, she doesnt nag his brother (lmao they have a housekeeper) She is sweet, and thoughtful, and doesn't whine (again she has a housekeeper/cook, no mortgage, a nanny)

This was all prompted by recently traveling with them for a family wedding, but I find it extremely strange because we are almost no contact with them (and I didn't attend the wedding for that reason). This woman does not like us. She calls me trash and says we aren't allowed in her house. She will not speak to my husband directly, and doesn't want our children to play with her daughter. He and his brother speak maybe once or twice a year.

I finally snapped and offered to call her and tell her he wants her. He was mortified and said i was being ridiculous. I said no, we should tell her and let her decide. Then I asked what he thought he had to offer her. She married the taller better looking brother. She has expensive taste and is used to all of the fancy dinners and lavish trips his brother can provide, but hey maybe she feels like slumming it.

I told him he is right. Any man would want her. She is gorgeous, so lets call her up and ask if she would ever want him. He actually teared up and said I was being extremely cruel and what I said was unforgivable. He said he was just using her as an example and I'm a terrible person.

I'm tired of coddling his feelings. I'm tired of being compared to some fantasy dream girl

OP posts:
Superduper02 · 13/09/2026 10:30

Yabbadabbadooooooo · 13/09/2026 09:33

I’ve just seen your niece is three and she cried for 40 minutes. Did you give her a cuddle? Sit her on your knee and watch the TV to distract her? Tell her stories? All she did was copy her older cousin jumping on the sofa. You know she’s not punished at home. Were you punishing her, or your SIL who you resent so deeply. Please look at your actions and apologise to your BIL and SIL. And have couples counselling with your DH. It sounds like you’re misguided maybe and would benefit from some external guidance.

I thought the same, ie that OP was trying to send a message to SIL by treating her 3yo daughter that way.

Vse500 · 13/09/2026 10:31

SassyNavyHam · 12/09/2026 22:25

My husband and I had a fight last night which turned into a long talking session about our marital issues, our insecurities, and what we feel we are missing in a partner.

To his credit he really did listen and try to understand my pov, but what hurt is he kept comparing me to his brother's wife. Every example of what he wanted somehow went back to his brother and SIL. She is funny, she can take a joke, she doesn't worry about little things, she doesnt nag his brother (lmao they have a housekeeper) She is sweet, and thoughtful, and doesn't whine (again she has a housekeeper/cook, no mortgage, a nanny)

This was all prompted by recently traveling with them for a family wedding, but I find it extremely strange because we are almost no contact with them (and I didn't attend the wedding for that reason). This woman does not like us. She calls me trash and says we aren't allowed in her house. She will not speak to my husband directly, and doesn't want our children to play with her daughter. He and his brother speak maybe once or twice a year.

I finally snapped and offered to call her and tell her he wants her. He was mortified and said i was being ridiculous. I said no, we should tell her and let her decide. Then I asked what he thought he had to offer her. She married the taller better looking brother. She has expensive taste and is used to all of the fancy dinners and lavish trips his brother can provide, but hey maybe she feels like slumming it.

I told him he is right. Any man would want her. She is gorgeous, so lets call her up and ask if she would ever want him. He actually teared up and said I was being extremely cruel and what I said was unforgivable. He said he was just using her as an example and I'm a terrible person.

I'm tired of coddling his feelings. I'm tired of being compared to some fantasy dream girl

You were bang on the money with what you said. He admires and wants her, wants you to be more like her, that’s why he said it. He can’t take it because you voiced exactly what he’s feeling and shows him up for the dick he is.

Vse500 · 13/09/2026 10:33

Undacovaartist · 12/09/2026 23:34

All these people feeling bad for Ops husband who was trying to make her insecure??

Nah, well done OP! You need to nip that kind of thing in the bud. He got a taste of his own medicine and didn’t like it. An unpleasant conversation all round but he was to blame for it.

He needs to get a grip.

This. 100%. Can’t believe all these people going for OP when he’s basically told her he finds his sister in law better than her.

RanniTheWitch · 13/09/2026 10:35

Your in-laws sound like they’re happy, attractive, and rich, so it makes sense that you’re both a bit jealous of them, but comparing one another to them is only going to foster resentment. He complains you’re not as funny and relaxed as your SIL, and you complain he’s not as tall, attractive or rich as your BIL. It’s not good to think such things, never mind say them out loud. I’d try couples therapy.

YellowScarfRupert · 13/09/2026 10:36

Behind closed doors a lot of things happen and people behave differently.

Sugargliderwombat · 13/09/2026 10:38

I think you were pretty vicious.

Did he actually directly say that or was he giving examples with his foot totally in his mouth ?

Undacovaartist · 13/09/2026 10:40

Vse500 · 13/09/2026 10:33

This. 100%. Can’t believe all these people going for OP when he’s basically told her he finds his sister in law better than her.

It’s baffling, right?! I would be absolutely crushed for my husband to speak so poorly of my character and basically insinuate he wished I had another woman’s personality.

Why some people are minimising this is beyond me.

Thankfully the overall vote agrees with our sentiment though!

F63C · 13/09/2026 10:45

summitfever · 12/09/2026 22:48

He’s used her to put you down.
You've used her to put him down.
If he can’t take it he shouldn’t be doling it out.

Ultimately your marriage is fucked

This. You gave as good as he dished out and somehow he's stunned and will never forgive you. Well boo fucking hoo. He needed a bite of a reality sandwich.

Go to counselling. Give it 18 months and if it's still shit, divorce him.

Undacovaartist · 13/09/2026 10:49

Didsomeonesaydogs · 13/09/2026 09:59

I remember your thread about him posting the photo of you asleep on your birthday, and honestly I think these two incidents together are quite revealing.

When you told him that photo embarrassed and hurt you, he didn’t respond by caring that he’d hurt you. He told you that you take things too seriously, wished you had a “sense of humour” and compared you unfavourably with this same SIL because apparently she can take a joke.

Now she’s being held up again as the superior model of womanhood because she “can take a joke”, “doesn’t nag”, “doesn’t whine”, is sweet, etc.

I’d really look at the misogyny underneath those words. “Nagging wife” and “whining woman” are incredibly convenient stereotypes because they make the woman’s response the problem and disappear whatever the man is actually being asked to take responsibility for. What does he call nagging? Are you repeatedly asking him to do things he’s agreed to do, contribute properly at home, parent, remember things or take responsibility without being managed? Because if so, you wouldn’t need to keep asking if he bloody did them.

And “have a sense of humour” seems to mean “accept behaviour you find humiliating and don’t hold me accountable for it”. A joke is supposed to be funny to the person it’s aimed at. Once you’ve said “that hurt me”, a loving partner doesn’t get to overrule you by announcing that a more easy-going woman would have laughed.

I also think the SIL comparison is particularly dishonest when you’ve said she has paid domestic help. Of course two households with completely different distributions of domestic labour may have different levels of conflict about domestic labour. Holding up the woman with a housekeeper/cook and nanny as proof that wives don’t need to “nag” while ignoring the labour being done by other women is almost a parody of how women’s work gets made invisible.

What you said about him being the less attractive/less successful brother was deliberately nasty and intended to hurt him. I wouldn’t pretend otherwise. But I also wouldn’t allow the entire conversation to be rewritten around your retaliation. He spent the conversation repeatedly telling you how you fail as a woman and wife compared with another woman. You finally retaliated by applying his own comparison game to him, and suddenly he discovered that being compared unfavourably with someone else is cruel and humiliating. Apparently comparison is acceptable when he’s the judge and you’re the deficient one.

I’d be asking myself some much bigger questions about this marriage. How much of being a “good wife” to him actually means being a woman who causes him no discomfort? How often are your complaints renamed “nagging”, your distress renamed “whining”, your boundaries treated as humourlessness and your anger used to obscure the behaviour that made you angry? Does he expect you to absorb disrespect pleasantly, perform domestic and emotional labour without complaint and remain “sweet” while doing it?

Because taken with your birthday thread, I don’t think the problem here is that you need a better sense of humour. I think your husband has a deeply misogynistic idea of the ideal wife: a woman who is agreeable when he’s agreeable, agreeable when he’s inconsiderate, and agreeable when she’s hurt. And when you stop being agreeable, instead of examining his own behaviour, he reaches for sexist language that makes your refusal to tolerate it the character flaw.

Your comeback wasn’t healthy communication. But I’d be very wary of accepting a version of events where that becomes the great moral outrage while his obvious contempt for you, comparisons and entitlement to a compliant wife are overshadowed.

I haven’t read that thread yet but I’m going to. By the summary you’ve given it sums up what I thought just from this thread alone.

He is trying to undermine OP and create insecurity. He is also doing that sly trick where someone essentially gaslights you and pretends they have done nothing wrong when they know you have and then they go as far as to actually turn it around on you.

I have a male relative who found it funny to send me a sexist meme on IWD. I gave him what for and he told me I was too sensitive “and [insert other cousins name] wouldn’t have got so upset.”

I think OP said he was the golden child in an abusive family so this all makes sense. It will be learned behaviour.

Your comeback wasn’t healthy communication. But I’d be very wary of accepting a version of events where thatbecomes the great moral outrage while his obvious contempt for you, comparisons and entitlement to a compliant wife are overshadowed.

Spot on.

3WildOnes · 13/09/2026 10:50

Did you apologise to you SIL and niece? I hope so. I would be fuming if someone put my three your old in time out and left her to get so distressed she was still crying 40 minutes later. You absolutely can discipline your own child without disciplining the other child if they aren't yours! I have three children , one who is a teenager and never once have I disciplined a visiting friend or relative.

jesseK · 13/09/2026 10:57

SassyNavyHam · 12/09/2026 22:25

My husband and I had a fight last night which turned into a long talking session about our marital issues, our insecurities, and what we feel we are missing in a partner.

To his credit he really did listen and try to understand my pov, but what hurt is he kept comparing me to his brother's wife. Every example of what he wanted somehow went back to his brother and SIL. She is funny, she can take a joke, she doesn't worry about little things, she doesnt nag his brother (lmao they have a housekeeper) She is sweet, and thoughtful, and doesn't whine (again she has a housekeeper/cook, no mortgage, a nanny)

This was all prompted by recently traveling with them for a family wedding, but I find it extremely strange because we are almost no contact with them (and I didn't attend the wedding for that reason). This woman does not like us. She calls me trash and says we aren't allowed in her house. She will not speak to my husband directly, and doesn't want our children to play with her daughter. He and his brother speak maybe once or twice a year.

I finally snapped and offered to call her and tell her he wants her. He was mortified and said i was being ridiculous. I said no, we should tell her and let her decide. Then I asked what he thought he had to offer her. She married the taller better looking brother. She has expensive taste and is used to all of the fancy dinners and lavish trips his brother can provide, but hey maybe she feels like slumming it.

I told him he is right. Any man would want her. She is gorgeous, so lets call her up and ask if she would ever want him. He actually teared up and said I was being extremely cruel and what I said was unforgivable. He said he was just using her as an example and I'm a terrible person.

I'm tired of coddling his feelings. I'm tired of being compared to some fantasy dream girl

Another one who can give it out, but can't take it themselves.

RumPidgeon · 13/09/2026 10:59

Your marriage is over and you need to let your husband go.

„the taller, better looking brother“…how cruel. Yes, he was in the wrong but you took it way too far.

Be done and leave your husband be.

CoventryCity · 13/09/2026 11:17

The 3 yr old niece old cried for 40minutes in your 'care', whilst you ignored her?

Yeah if I was the mum I would never want my daughter or myself near you again either.

Undacovaartist · 13/09/2026 11:19

Superduper02 · 13/09/2026 10:26

Really, those are questions for OP and her DH.

Within each couple, each party should know the other. Their weaknesses, their tendencies, their vulnerabilities, their flaws. Then you work alongside those things to navigate difficult issues, knowing how to talk to each other without inflaming the issue.

There is no blanket advice for what always works. But I think it's clear which approaches will never work and that's what we are discussing here.

He cut her deeply with the comments he made so she burnt him back too out of hurt and anger. She said something in the heat of the moment when the husband was basically picking apart her character.

No-one is perfect and certainly no one in this situation has behaved like an angel. But we must not hold her to a higher standard and act like she was worse .

A saying “some people don’t hear until they feel”. And it’s true!
OP said “finally I snapped” , so it sounds like he went on at length and just wouldn’t stop but then her saying that was the only thing to shut him up. He was quite happy to talk at her when it was only her feelings getting hurt.

In an ideal world we would all have perfect self control and endless patience, and never bite back, but sometimes we are just human-ing and it happens.

And tbh sometimes a taste of their own medicine is the only thing that stops them in their track and gives the person a bit of momentary relief.

Op, I do suspect your BIL has good reason to dislike your husband if he was anything like that as a child.

Can you imagine him as the golden child making horrible comments to his brother, then playing victim and letting his younger brother be told off by their parents for trying to stand up for himself?

He is probably trying to re-create a similar dynamic here.

I’d say your in-laws have the measure of him.

Jamlighter · 13/09/2026 11:20

I don't blame you. My husband oce said something similar about a woman we kew. When i pointed out she had a rich husband didnt work had staff etc compared to me as principal earner primary caregiver etc it was no wonder perhaps he would like to step up and provide me with that lifestyle then i would be less stressed thinner more regularly maintained etc. He shut up and never mentioned it again so i know exactly where you are coming from. Also a visitng chid that won't do what it is told should be disciplined. your house your rules. If he doesn't apologise and accept fault you need to re evaluate your marriage as contempt is a killer

PrettyPickle · 13/09/2026 11:23

@SassyNavyHam Hmmm interesting comparison.

He didn’t compare you to his SIL - he compared you to a fictional character he’s invented because he’s unhappy with himself. I think his self esteem is low and he needs to stop looking at what his brother has and to realise what's in front of him before its gone,

The woman he’s holding up as the gold standard hates you both, has a lifestyle you don’t have, and behaves the way she does because she has staff doing the hard parts of life. That’s fantasy projection. He’s not comparing you, his wife to a real person, he’s comparing you to a curated persona he observed for a few hours at a wedding, a persona that only exists because this woman has a housekeeper, a cook, a nanny, no mortgage, a wealthy husband and most importantly a lifestyle that removes 90% of the daily grind that causes friction in normal marriages. Of course she seems “easygoing.” She’s not doing the things that make people stressed.

It’s like comparing someone who runs a marathon with weights strapped to their legs to someone gliding along on a mobility scooter and saying, “Why can’t you be more effortless?”

You snapped because he wasn’t having a conversation - he was punishing you with a fantasy. You finally said the thing that punctured his fantasy bubble: “Let’s call her and see if she wants you.” It was cruel, but perhaps needed to snap him back to reality. There is a limit to how much you can take comparison wise when he is not comparing like for like. He didn’t cry because you were “mean.” He cried because you shattered the illusion he’d been using to avoid looking at his own issues and he seems to be framing those issues as all yours.

He needs to stop projecting his insecurities onto you and start dealing with the real issues in your marriage instead of hiding behind comparisons that aren’t grounded in reality.

And putting a child on a 3minute time out is not abuse and I would say that your inlaws failure to manage their childs behaviour is also a form of abuse that will come back to bite them and the child.

Before this goes any further, you need to sit down and have a quiet, controlled chat about this, maybe each of you write out a list before of points you want to cover. Tell him you love him and are content with what you have together but he seems to never find it enough, as if you are lacking, and its really bringing you down and you feel undervalued. And listen to what he says. I think this is his self esteem and that is not soemthing that can be changed in a few conversations,

LaidOnYourBackWithTheBoyWithTheArabStrap · 13/09/2026 11:26

Fucking hell. YANBU to be hurt by the comparison (especially as you and Sil clearly hate each other)and I might have snapped too- I probably would actually. I think your husband is being a massive hypocrite to be so hurt by your outburst. You compared him unfavourably to his brother right after he compared you unfavourably to his brother’s wife. Fuck around and find out.

Branleuse · 13/09/2026 11:29

Good for op.

Stompythedinosaur · 13/09/2026 11:37

I'm not surprised you snapped at him - he's comparing you with a fantasy, not a real woman, he clearly doesn't know what it's like to be in a relationship with your sil.

But, punishing a 3yo you were babysitting against the parent's wishes is wild, and I'm not surprised your sil is furious and dislikes you. And letting her cry for 40 mins - weren't you trying to comfort her? I can't imagine letting a toddler get so upset because you believe your parenting style is superior!

Honestly, it sounds like your marriage isn't in a good place. Your dh wishes you were different but isn't interested in understanding why things are like they are. Your reply is to point out that you're the best partner he could get because of his own inadequacies. Do you still love each other?

PrettyPickle · 13/09/2026 11:49

PurpleLovecats · 12/09/2026 23:28

Putting a visiting child in time out is excessive. I hope you apologised.

As for the rest, your marriage sounds dangerously close to collapse.

Putting a child in timeout is excessive? Seriously???

If a parent leaves their child with another person they must completely trust them and accept their child management or do not leave them there. The OP has not beaten the kid, a simple 3 minute time out! The in laws should have supported that.

Notsosweetcaroline · 13/09/2026 11:56

Undacovaartist · 13/09/2026 11:19

He cut her deeply with the comments he made so she burnt him back too out of hurt and anger. She said something in the heat of the moment when the husband was basically picking apart her character.

No-one is perfect and certainly no one in this situation has behaved like an angel. But we must not hold her to a higher standard and act like she was worse .

A saying “some people don’t hear until they feel”. And it’s true!
OP said “finally I snapped” , so it sounds like he went on at length and just wouldn’t stop but then her saying that was the only thing to shut him up. He was quite happy to talk at her when it was only her feelings getting hurt.

In an ideal world we would all have perfect self control and endless patience, and never bite back, but sometimes we are just human-ing and it happens.

And tbh sometimes a taste of their own medicine is the only thing that stops them in their track and gives the person a bit of momentary relief.

Op, I do suspect your BIL has good reason to dislike your husband if he was anything like that as a child.

Can you imagine him as the golden child making horrible comments to his brother, then playing victim and letting his younger brother be told off by their parents for trying to stand up for himself?

He is probably trying to re-create a similar dynamic here.

I’d say your in-laws have the measure of him.

Edited

I’m not sure, for your take to be valid then the op wasn’t sitting telling him where he could improve and detailing his faults, and I suspect she was.

Bubbaliciousss · 13/09/2026 12:05

Guess it's a case of FAFO on his part..

Stompythedinosaur · 13/09/2026 12:06

PrettyPickle · 13/09/2026 11:49

Putting a child in timeout is excessive? Seriously???

If a parent leaves their child with another person they must completely trust them and accept their child management or do not leave them there. The OP has not beaten the kid, a simple 3 minute time out! The in laws should have supported that.

A babysitter isn't there to make parenting decisions about how to raise that dc. They're there to keep them safe until the parent returns.

I left my dc with people I have minor parenting differences with. I asked my dmil not to leave my dc to cry and not to have them blessed in church. She was absolutely respectful of our views as parents. That's normal, I think.

Bubbaliciousss · 13/09/2026 12:11

Stompythedinosaur · 13/09/2026 12:06

A babysitter isn't there to make parenting decisions about how to raise that dc. They're there to keep them safe until the parent returns.

I left my dc with people I have minor parenting differences with. I asked my dmil not to leave my dc to cry and not to have them blessed in church. She was absolutely respectful of our views as parents. That's normal, I think.

There's a big difference between a 3 minute time out and forcing religion on a child though. I would never in a month of Sundays leave my child with someone but expect them to not have any rules and subsequent consequences for poor behaviour. Obviously I would be angry and it woule be competely unacceptable if those consequneces were screaming at or smacking my child or such like. But being made to sit quietly for 3 minutes to regulate after they had probably whipped themselves up into a frenzy? Absolutely fine.

SecretSquid · 13/09/2026 12:31

So, yanbu to snap at your DH, he needed telling. You did it in a spiteful hurtful way though. Could have just said if you had the lifestyle your sil had you'd be fun and easy going too.
But I can't get past this: you put your 3 year old, gentle-parented niece into timeout for CLIMBING ON THE COUCH?
What did you do for the 40 minutes she was crying? Presumably she started crying from the minute the timeout began? It's not your job to upend your SIL's parenting decisions, and she has very good reason for them.