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AIBU to snap after my husband compared me to his sister-in-law?

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SassyNavyHam · 12/09/2026 22:25

My husband and I had a fight last night which turned into a long talking session about our marital issues, our insecurities, and what we feel we are missing in a partner.

To his credit he really did listen and try to understand my pov, but what hurt is he kept comparing me to his brother's wife. Every example of what he wanted somehow went back to his brother and SIL. She is funny, she can take a joke, she doesn't worry about little things, she doesnt nag his brother (lmao they have a housekeeper) She is sweet, and thoughtful, and doesn't whine (again she has a housekeeper/cook, no mortgage, a nanny)

This was all prompted by recently traveling with them for a family wedding, but I find it extremely strange because we are almost no contact with them (and I didn't attend the wedding for that reason). This woman does not like us. She calls me trash and says we aren't allowed in her house. She will not speak to my husband directly, and doesn't want our children to play with her daughter. He and his brother speak maybe once or twice a year.

I finally snapped and offered to call her and tell her he wants her. He was mortified and said i was being ridiculous. I said no, we should tell her and let her decide. Then I asked what he thought he had to offer her. She married the taller better looking brother. She has expensive taste and is used to all of the fancy dinners and lavish trips his brother can provide, but hey maybe she feels like slumming it.

I told him he is right. Any man would want her. She is gorgeous, so lets call her up and ask if she would ever want him. He actually teared up and said I was being extremely cruel and what I said was unforgivable. He said he was just using her as an example and I'm a terrible person.

I'm tired of coddling his feelings. I'm tired of being compared to some fantasy dream girl

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Phoenixfire1988 · 13/09/2026 08:58

He wants you to be more like his sil so start acting like her , demand the fancy things the housekeeper and the nanny , the lavish holidays .
Oh and while you're there behave like a total spoilt bitch , she sounds like an awful person and nothing how he describes her .

YourWildAmberSloth · 13/09/2026 09:00

SassyNavyHam · 12/09/2026 23:13

She thinks my in laws are trash because they beat her husband a lot growing up for ADHD behaviors and dyslexia. I do not disagree with her, but she seems to think my husband who is two years older than him was supposed to do something and stop their parents. She feels my husband was the golden child (he was but he never asked for it) and that he bullied his brother (they bullied each other) and that now that he has money everyone wants some.

She tolerated us but clearly didn't like us and then there was an incident with her daughter. She was also abused as a child and her and BIL are extremely overprotective. We were watching their daughter (which i know was extremely hard for her) and she got put in time out (along with my son) My niece was confused by this because she has never been disciplined before and she cried the rest of the evening (only about 40 minutes until her mom came) When SIL heard she lost her mind. She didn't listen to anyone else's version of events and she actually tried to swing at me and BIL had to drag her out. Since then we are not allowed in her house or to have any direct contact with her child.

So SiL is basically correct then? In her shoes most people would feel the same about her in-laws and he way they treated her husband.

justasking111 · 13/09/2026 09:02

What a mess. No-one comes out of this looking good.

Your sister in law and husband have their own demons believe me. Being an abused child can leave awful scars.

justasking111 · 13/09/2026 09:07

YourWildAmberSloth · 13/09/2026 09:00

So SiL is basically correct then? In her shoes most people would feel the same about her in-laws and he way they treated her husband.

Edited

I know someone who on the day of her MIL funeral said in a low voice to me "I hated that woman" . Now I know her husband had a very difficult upbringing, what I hadn't realised was how it had affected her marriage. She never let on.

When my awful mother died I and my brothers felt nothing but relief.

Greebocat · 13/09/2026 09:10

DurinsBane · 12/09/2026 23:34

Of course you do. If the child and your child are both being naughty and you use timeout for your child, are you supposed to just ignore the bad behaviour, or put your own child in timeout but not the niece?

Not if you know the mother was abused as a child and the parents are very overprotective. Don’t punish either of them, redirect them, it was only for another 40 minutes. Tell the parents what happened let them deal with it. Speak to your own child and don’t look after the niece again .

rainbowstardrops · 13/09/2026 09:15

Your husband seems to know an awful lot of your SIL’s traits after just spending some time at a wedding with her and his brother. If he only talks to his brother a couple of times a year and you’re not allowed in their house, how on earth do either of you know what goes on behind their closed doors?
Anyway, you all sound as bad as each other.

PhaedraTwo · 13/09/2026 09:16

This is OP's thread with the back story to what led up to it.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/amibeingunreasonable/5577442-aibu-to-be-upset-my-husband-posted-an-unflattering-birthday-photo?page=1

I would be furious if my husband posted photos of me sleeping without my consent, which I wouldn't give. (INot that he'd dream of doing so. I'm astonished by the posters defending him)

Their relationship with each other and husband's with his family are deeply messed up.

Re the "time out" incident. OP was out of order and tbh I'm struggling to see what's so terrible about a 3 year old climbing on a sofa anyway. The child was obviously looking for something to do. They're 3 years old - 3 year olds are active and get bored easily.

Lampzade · 13/09/2026 09:23

I would really like to hear the sil’s side
Tbh Op, you don’t come out of this well and I am actually finding myself sympathising with the brother and sister in law

Yabbadabbadooooooo · 13/09/2026 09:33

I’ve just seen your niece is three and she cried for 40 minutes. Did you give her a cuddle? Sit her on your knee and watch the TV to distract her? Tell her stories? All she did was copy her older cousin jumping on the sofa. You know she’s not punished at home. Were you punishing her, or your SIL who you resent so deeply. Please look at your actions and apologise to your BIL and SIL. And have couples counselling with your DH. It sounds like you’re misguided maybe and would benefit from some external guidance.

PussyGaylore · 13/09/2026 09:34

Did he directly compare you to her or did you infer he was talking about her when he was saying what he wanted in a partner?

beAsensible1 · 13/09/2026 09:35

It sounds like BIL had a shit childhood and your DH contributed to that and reaped the benefits of being the golden child. I don’t really see how the abused scapegoat could bully the golden child who was two years older. But stranger things have happened. Of course they keep you at arms length m Your DH probably still is the golden adult with his parents.

anyway he sounds a loser waxing lyrical about a marriage he has no insight on and a person who sees him twice a year.
both of you were rude but I think he needed a reality check that he doesn’t have the money to afford the type of life or “relaxed wife” that he wants.

Bubbaliciousss · 13/09/2026 09:40

Yabbadabbadooooooo · 13/09/2026 08:21

Time out has been discredited and is not allowed to be used in many childcare settings as it can cause trauma for the child.. Even if you use it for your own child - you’d need to explain clearly beforehand what it is, and the timeout rule is one minute per year of their age. So 6 minutes for a 6 year old. But the child has to understand what you’re doing and why, and if they come and apologise then then time out is over. Having a guest child howling for 40 minutes is inexcusable. What planet are you on? The OP also didn’t say what the crime was. The niece could just have been going along with whatever the son did. Her parents were both abused as children and are admirably determined not to carry on that abuse, then come home to find their daighter sobbing after 40 minutes of neglect. I would be more than furious. The OP obviously doesn’t comprehend the severity of this - her thinking is very rigid, so suggesting a parenting course and couples therapy as a good way for her and her husband to gain an understanding of what is acceptable and what isn’t. And also salvage their marriage as it doesn’t sound like they want to break up. The BIL had ADHD so it’s not a huge leap to consider whether there is ND at play here, possibly for the OP as well, as their conversation path was somewhat unorthodox so couples therapy could also guide them. OP’s husband should also address with his brother having witnessed the abuse when they were children and how he felt powerless to help, as it’s a huge thing for his brother the fact that it is being mentioned now. The BIL doesn’t understand why his brother didn’t stand up for him. Maybe the OP’s husband could help heal that wound. OP and husband are not capable of a deep conversation it seems, as they descend into petty nitpicking and taking swipes at each other. They need a counsellor / therapist to guide them through a process to reach a level of understanding and hopefully to heal the wounds of the past and regain a relationship between brothers, and have the cousins be able to play again. The OP’s initial query should not have been about the quarrel with her DH, but about how to heal her family. That’s the elephant in the room.

What planet are you on? 3 minutes of time out is not abuse or trauma. Get a grip. A child acts poorly, you tell them to sit down quietly for a couple of minutes to allow them to regulate themselves. Unless you're imagining time out in a bloody chokey, Matilda style. The fact that the child cried for 40 minutes afterwards is not a reason to let her off with anything and everything, just because. And that is what she did, she's a child, she cried. She didn't "howl", she's not a wolf. Jesus, my kid cried for 20 minutes yesterday because she couldn't have another barney bear cake. Should I have just given her it because she cried?

Time out has been discredited by some. So? Plently of things are encouraged and discouraged by professionals ie going along with kids gender beliefs etc. It doesn't mean they're right or credible.

No wonder poor behaviour from kids os so pervasive these days when there are parents with attitudes like yours.

IStillHearTheWaves · 13/09/2026 09:44

You've both been awful. I can't see moving past this.

Hellohelga · 13/09/2026 09:49

Paradoes · 12/09/2026 22:34

I think the marriage is over

This, just get divorced and stop tormenting each other.

PhaedraTwo · 13/09/2026 09:55

I had to Google "time out". I'd never heard of it. My son was 3 years old in 1993. I did not use "time out". From what I've read today I'm firmly in camp that it's completely inappropriate. One article said "time out is the polite term for solitary confinement"

Screamingabdabz · 13/09/2026 09:57

I think this, along with your other thread, paints a picture of a very dysfunctional marriage. Forget the SIL drama, that’s a red herring, be adults and sort out your own relationship for the sake of your kids.

Didsomeonesaydogs · 13/09/2026 09:59

I remember your thread about him posting the photo of you asleep on your birthday, and honestly I think these two incidents together are quite revealing.

When you told him that photo embarrassed and hurt you, he didn’t respond by caring that he’d hurt you. He told you that you take things too seriously, wished you had a “sense of humour” and compared you unfavourably with this same SIL because apparently she can take a joke.

Now she’s being held up again as the superior model of womanhood because she “can take a joke”, “doesn’t nag”, “doesn’t whine”, is sweet, etc.

I’d really look at the misogyny underneath those words. “Nagging wife” and “whining woman” are incredibly convenient stereotypes because they make the woman’s response the problem and disappear whatever the man is actually being asked to take responsibility for. What does he call nagging? Are you repeatedly asking him to do things he’s agreed to do, contribute properly at home, parent, remember things or take responsibility without being managed? Because if so, you wouldn’t need to keep asking if he bloody did them.

And “have a sense of humour” seems to mean “accept behaviour you find humiliating and don’t hold me accountable for it”. A joke is supposed to be funny to the person it’s aimed at. Once you’ve said “that hurt me”, a loving partner doesn’t get to overrule you by announcing that a more easy-going woman would have laughed.

I also think the SIL comparison is particularly dishonest when you’ve said she has paid domestic help. Of course two households with completely different distributions of domestic labour may have different levels of conflict about domestic labour. Holding up the woman with a housekeeper/cook and nanny as proof that wives don’t need to “nag” while ignoring the labour being done by other women is almost a parody of how women’s work gets made invisible.

What you said about him being the less attractive/less successful brother was deliberately nasty and intended to hurt him. I wouldn’t pretend otherwise. But I also wouldn’t allow the entire conversation to be rewritten around your retaliation. He spent the conversation repeatedly telling you how you fail as a woman and wife compared with another woman. You finally retaliated by applying his own comparison game to him, and suddenly he discovered that being compared unfavourably with someone else is cruel and humiliating. Apparently comparison is acceptable when he’s the judge and you’re the deficient one.

I’d be asking myself some much bigger questions about this marriage. How much of being a “good wife” to him actually means being a woman who causes him no discomfort? How often are your complaints renamed “nagging”, your distress renamed “whining”, your boundaries treated as humourlessness and your anger used to obscure the behaviour that made you angry? Does he expect you to absorb disrespect pleasantly, perform domestic and emotional labour without complaint and remain “sweet” while doing it?

Because taken with your birthday thread, I don’t think the problem here is that you need a better sense of humour. I think your husband has a deeply misogynistic idea of the ideal wife: a woman who is agreeable when he’s agreeable, agreeable when he’s inconsiderate, and agreeable when she’s hurt. And when you stop being agreeable, instead of examining his own behaviour, he reaches for sexist language that makes your refusal to tolerate it the character flaw.

Your comeback wasn’t healthy communication. But I’d be very wary of accepting a version of events where that becomes the great moral outrage while his obvious contempt for you, comparisons and entitlement to a compliant wife are overshadowed.

bettyrubble99 · 13/09/2026 10:05

Just say to him "provide me with the life and luxuries she has and I will be the wife she is"

GelatinousDynamo · 13/09/2026 10:08

I think his comments were thoughtless, but yours went beyond that, yours were vicious @SassyNavyHam . You wanted to hurt him and it worked. And now it seems like you are looking for some sort of absolution online.

Do your arguments always end up with someone crying?

RVectensian · 13/09/2026 10:13

GoldenSandy · 13/09/2026 01:10

I can't decide which of you is more unreasonable. I think it might be you.

He's unreasonable and possibly misogynistic for comparing you to someone who isn't made to do the lion's share of the domestic tasks because she outsources it. And certainly nobody would nag if their partner pulled their weight.

BUT I think you crossed a line.

He's bang out of order for what he said but what he said could have been challenged in order to improve the relationship dynamic, especially as I assume this comparison is a recent snub towards you. This could have been worked on in marriage counselling or him educating himself (if willing) on the invisible labour women take on.

However, what you've said hasn't addressed what he's said, and instead is incredibly cruel. I pretty much always take the woman's side in these disputes, but I don't think there's any coming back from what you've said. Either you knew that when you said it and it's your way of ending the marriage, or you've let rip in the moment. Even with the latter, it is clear it's what you really think of him.

He's negatively compared your behaviour to hers, you've insulted and reduced his self-worth and core sense of who he is, his values, the way he looks, the person he is. Effectively stuff he can't change and stuff which will have been the case when you met him (better looking brother, that you're slumming it by being with him etc), which suggests you've always thought it.

It's like the difference between saying a child is being naughty Vs a child being told they are a naughty boy/girl.

Once you're separated you will forget about his criticisms of you. SiL will be a stranger.
I suspect what you've said of him will be something which deeply affects him forever.

This. There is such an inherent difference.

IsItSnowing · 13/09/2026 10:17

Of all the people in this scenario who seem fairly blameless, your SIL stands out. She thinks your parents are shit because they abused their kids - well I'm with her there.
She thinks you're shit because on the rare occasion you babysat her child, you disciplined her in a way you knew her parents wouldn't, knowing that both her parents were abused as children and would be very sensitive to it. Jumping on the couch, really? You couldn't distract them, find them something else to do? Putting her in time out was not appropriate at all and I'm not surprised your SIL was upset.
And you and your husband. Sorry, but both your behaviours are ridiculous. Do you even like each other? Sounds like he's jealous of his brother (and his wife) and you are too. You need to work out your own issues, if you want to stay married. If you do? It doesn't sound like a great relationship to me.

ExistWHY · 13/09/2026 10:18

Tit for tat for the sounds of it.
You both had a dig at each other, I think you both need to split.

Notsosweetcaroline · 13/09/2026 10:23

IsItSnowing · 13/09/2026 10:17

Of all the people in this scenario who seem fairly blameless, your SIL stands out. She thinks your parents are shit because they abused their kids - well I'm with her there.
She thinks you're shit because on the rare occasion you babysat her child, you disciplined her in a way you knew her parents wouldn't, knowing that both her parents were abused as children and would be very sensitive to it. Jumping on the couch, really? You couldn't distract them, find them something else to do? Putting her in time out was not appropriate at all and I'm not surprised your SIL was upset.
And you and your husband. Sorry, but both your behaviours are ridiculous. Do you even like each other? Sounds like he's jealous of his brother (and his wife) and you are too. You need to work out your own issues, if you want to stay married. If you do? It doesn't sound like a great relationship to me.

I agree with you and her comment on they didn’t treat him well and now he has money they all want some I strongly suspect is accurate.

and I very much doubt this conversation was one way, with the op hearing a list of what she was to change and saying nothing back just telling him he was perfect.

often these threads are written to get the responses the op wants. And she was utterly venomous.

Superduper02 · 13/09/2026 10:26

FoldItIn · 13/09/2026 08:25

You haven't answered the questions though.
What do you say to a man who is awful enough to compare you in the first place, to ensure he 1. Listens and 2. Doesn't do it again?

You know, the casual comparing is hideous, no doubt the OP was expected to self reflect lol.
The stupidity of comparing her to someone who doesn't need to worry about everyday worries, why do you think he did that?

Really, those are questions for OP and her DH.

Within each couple, each party should know the other. Their weaknesses, their tendencies, their vulnerabilities, their flaws. Then you work alongside those things to navigate difficult issues, knowing how to talk to each other without inflaming the issue.

There is no blanket advice for what always works. But I think it's clear which approaches will never work and that's what we are discussing here.

Keyleads · 13/09/2026 10:27

thepariscrimefiles · 13/09/2026 05:45

You really shouldn't have put SIL's daughter in time out for something as trivial as a 3-year old climbing onto the coach, no doubt following your son's lead, especially as you were aware of SIL's views on discipline and why she is like that due to past abuse. You knew that this was something that SIL felt really strongly about but you did it anyway.

Your husband is a dick though. His eulogy about how amazing your SIL is, even though she views him as well as you with utter contempt, was just designed to hurt you and make you feel bad about yourself. He shouldn't have dished it out if he couldn't take it so I don't feel sorry for him when he had a taste of his own medicine.

I agree with posters that say that your marriage is toxic and you should probably make plans split up.

ETA I've just read your previous post about your DH taking and posting a very unflattering photo of you while you were asleep and posting it online and then moaning when you asked him to take it down. He seems to make a habit of comparing you unfavourably with your SIL and is obviously in competition with his brother. That he did it on your birthday is even worse. You really need to get rid of him as he's horrible.

Edited

This.
Forget about the inlaws.
Your husband is a nasty piece of shit.
The picture online is absolutely unforgivable.
Well done for firmly biting back.
Time to divorce.

Don't waste your life with such a loser.