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AIBU to feel hurt my partner dreads coming home to us?

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Ange1502 · Today 00:12

I’m a SAMH to a 2 year old. My partner has made it clear he hates coming home after work, and was particularly vocal about his feelings tonight. He said he dreads coming back to the house, doesn’t look forward to seeing us, that he would rather be at work and that he doesn’t want to be here and he hates it. He’s said he just wants to come home to peace and quiet, and chill out.

I can appreciate he’s tired after work, but I think it’s unrealistic expectations with a 2 year old? He said he hopes he gets stuck in traffic most days so that’s less time to bedtime. I just find it sad too, as he’s not seen us all day, but is just desperate for the day to be over? He’s really difficult to be around on his days off too, he’s miserable and says he’d rather be at work.

Not really sure where to go from here?

OP posts:
havingoneofthosedays · Today 06:16

Was the child planned?

B1anche · Today 06:17

HenLen · Today 05:38

Did you verbally abuse the living shit out of your partner every day? Tell them you hate being there and make their life miserable? On your days off mope around make their life a misery? Make it clear you felt your kid and your partner were nothing but a nuisance?

If so, I feel for your partner.

And no, it wouldn't. He's an abusive cunt, and he's likely planning to desert them anyway.

If she was being an abusive cunt, I'd tell her to stop doing that too, and so would everyone else.

It was a difficult time for both of us. Thankfully with some patience and understanding we got through it. People massively underestimate the impact a baby has on your life.

BlueFahrenheit · Today 06:26

He's planned his exit strategy and will execute it in due course.

IDrinkTeaAllTheTime · Today 06:43

JMSA · Today 01:55

Ex husband and I used to joke about wanting to break a leg and staying in hospital, to have a break from the kids.

I think that would have gone down like a fart in a lift on here 😅

As for what your partner says, in all honesty, it depends how chaotic and disorganised things are when he gets home.

Have you ever watched Workin’ Moms? Kate (I think) said something similar to her baby group about her fantasy of being in hospital from a car crash to get a break for a bit. They all looked horrified, but it was quite funny and relatable the way she said it.

Sorry to derail, OP. I do think you need to both have a serious conversation about things; while his delivery is not great, he is giving you the truth of his feelings, so you need to decide how to proceed with that and whether you both want to work on your relationship.

If he really does want out of family life, you need to start making plans for you and your child without him, and thinking about how to get back to work, etc.

You said partner in your post, so I’m assuming you’re not married? Whats the house situation? Do you rent or own?

Pippa12 · Today 06:44

HenLen · Today 05:24

"My partner has made it clear he hates coming home after work, and was particularly vocal about his feelings tonight" so he has been vocal about his feelings repeatedly, before getting particularly nasty tonight.

He said he hopes he gets stuck in traffic most days so that’s less time to bedtime.

H’s really difficult to be around on his days off too, he’s miserable and says he’d rather be at work."

We all think horrible things from time to time. He can learn to shut the fuck up instead of being verbally abusive to the mother of his child and treating them both like they are annoyances.

And yes, it is definitely repeatedly that he's saying these horrible things.

But he's planning to desert them anyway, almost certainly.

Where is this verbally abusive- you’ve listed his thoughts and feelings- not abuse. It doesn’t say he shouted, name called, slammed around, gas lighted. L

He’s said lots of things TONIGHT. A full list of things- was he only allowed to say one statement, once?

Depressed people are generally difficult to be around- because they are depressed. That’s the whole point. Generally preferring to be at work in a structured environment away from ‘real’ and ‘scary’ responsibilities such as children.

But yeah, tell him to shut the fuck up, because that’s not abusive.

This thread would be so different if this was a women. I told my DH I can’t cope- shut the fuck up.

IDrinkTeaAllTheTime · Today 06:53

WhatsUpWithGene · Today 04:35

This is the problem with people having children because it’s expected or because of family pressure or without thinking it through and I’m not saying this is the case with OP and I’m commenting just from my own recent experience but I don’t think it’s a unique one.

I never wanted children and made it clear from the start before I even went on a date with a man. They all agreed they were happy with this but after months or even years down the line I realised they expected me to change my mind.

I was happily married - or so I thought, we had money in the bank, travelled, had good jobs and lots of free time.
My husband was from a culture where it’s expected to have children and faced constant pressure from his family so started trying to persuade me to have children.
I knew he wouldn’t enjoy being a parent and the changes in our lifestyle and I’d be expected to do everything but he was fixated on the idea so we split up.

My ex husband has two children now and hates being a father and begged me to take him back. I refused and said he made the choice to have his children and it wasn’t fair to just walk away but he still regularly gets in contact telling me how he regrets his decision.

I met someone else and we had 10 happy years before he decided that he was missing out and it wasn’t natural that we didn’t have kids when most of the men he knows do.
It absolutely destroyed me but we split up because he was convinced he was missing out and he quickly met someone younger and she was pregnant within months.

It’s the same story and he now regrets it and is miserable and said he hates going home to a chaotic house with an exhausted partner who rightly wants him to pull his weight.

Two of my friends have ended up as single parents because they wanted kids and their husbands blindly went along with it and then resented the attention the kids got and how their lives changed.

I know I’m likely projecting and I know lots of men have children because they want them and they are committed family men.
The problem is with the men who make a life changing decision without really thinking about if it’s what they really want.

It’s so much easier for men to just walk away or say they have changed their mind and it’s often not expected because they seem so keen to start with.
The really sad thing is a lot of men walk away then have children with another partner to make them happy and then are a shit dad to multiple children.

I don’t think there is anything you can do if a man is unhappy with how his life has turned out and the choices he’s made. Things might improve but it must be frustrating and heartbreaking if they lead you into thinking they want a family then seem desperate to escape it.
Hopefully in OP’s case it’s just a bad patch and things can we worked on a maybe it’s something talking and antidepressants will fix.

There is lots of recent discussions about women choosing to be childfree and going against expectations but I never hear similar about men feeling pressured into it. I think it’s important that men should give more thought into if they really want children or not and it might save a lot of heartbreak in the future and save a lot of women from being forced to raise children alone.
Even if their husbands or partners don’t leave, a lot still don’t pull their weight or check out of family life and duties so this could be avoided with more consideration.

It’s a shame you can’t do a trial week having children to see what it’s really like. I think anyone considering it should be given one of those dolls they used to use in schools that cry constantly unless you meet their needs and keep you up all night. My ex had never even held a baby so didn’t have a clue how hard it would be.
Unfortunately most people don’t but women have a lot stronger bond with their children and don’t have the choice to just walk away and it’s unfair they would be judged so much harder then a man if they did.

This is 💯 spot on. A good friend of my brother recently separated from his partner because she wanted children and he realised that when having the conversation with her, he never wanted children, so they decided to go their separate ways.

As much as I’m sure it was very hard on both of them, I completely respect the honesty from him and standing by that rather than having kids due to societal expectations and leading that poor woman to a life of resentment and potential single parenthood when she wouldn’t have chosen that for herself.

Society has progressed so much in a lot of ways, but when it comes to things like marriage and having children there’s still a bit of it that seems to have not moved on, and it annoys me that people are just expected to have children like it’s ticking something off a to-do list. Not everyone is meant to be a parent and that’s okay.

SilverTotoro · Today 07:01

Bedtime routine can be hard work it can be chaos in our house with two toddlers definitely not my favourite part of the day! However the red flag for me is that he’s still difficult to be around on his day off. DH and I love days off or the weekend with our little ones it’s the time you can have fun as a family and spend time together.

Does he ever enjoy spending time with his child - does he make an effort and pull his weight when he’s at home or does he just moan at you. I think in your position it has to be counselling. He’s either struggling with his mental health or he’s not cut out to be a full time parent.

Thepossibility · Today 07:01

What a cunt. We all have overwhelmed moments as parents of young kids but we all chose this life so get on with it. He's making it known how unhappy he is because he's expecting you to fix it, either by making his life easier by taking the full burden of parenting so the little petal can feel happy or by using this as an excuse to be a checked out and grumpy arsehole.

ClayPotaLot · Today 07:09

Pippa12 · Today 03:04

Imagine telling a depressed woman to stop being immature and to suck it up and get stuck in.

There's not a lot about OP's post that says depressed. The only thing he seems to avoid that she mentions is parenting. Depression isn't so specific. So I'm not skeptical about the idea he's depressed.

If he is then he needs support for that. But absolutely he needs to suck it up a bit and fake it for a while until treatment and support tackles the depression. It's not good for depression to pull away from connections and purpose. And its disastrous for your child and partner.

Velvian · Today 07:10

Pippa12 · Today 02:39

What a triggered him to say this, what is the context? Were you arguing and he said it to really hurt you or was he being brutally honest with you because he’s not coping?

Mothers come on the forum on the regular and openly say they cannot stand being a parent, and the majority reply with kindness signposting them to their GP.

Why can’t we do the same for men? If they speak the truth their ‘selfish, lazy dick heads!. Is it any wonder male suicide rates are so high.

That's not what this is.

Todayismyfavouriteday · Today 07:11

How old are you? And him? Did he want the child? Is there resentment between you for some other reason?

There's plenty more information you need to provide, so we can see where he's coming from. As it is, it looks as if he hates being a parent, and I'd be planning my escape. At least he's being honest, so you know where you stand.

HoldMyWine · Today 07:14

You need to provide more context if you are going to come back OP

Gettingbysomehow · Today 07:17

Not much of a man is he? He is a husband and father now whether he likes it or not and needs to step up.

chirrupybird · Today 07:19

Tell him if he doesn't want to be there he doesn't have to and he's making your life miserable too. Tell him to stay in a hotel for a few nights and if he still doesn't want to come home he can move out. He's mentally checked out of the relationship. He may be being honest, but he's being deliberately cruel.

Dokushozanmai · Today 07:22

chirrupybird · Today 07:19

Tell him if he doesn't want to be there he doesn't have to and he's making your life miserable too. Tell him to stay in a hotel for a few nights and if he still doesn't want to come home he can move out. He's mentally checked out of the relationship. He may be being honest, but he's being deliberately cruel.

The op suggests that they’re not married and she is a sahm so before she blows up her relationship completely and has to go back to work in a hurry, she might just want to try talking to him and see if anything can be salvaged.

ForDreamyMintHare · Today 07:24

You say partner, so not married? Why have you stopped working without the security of marriage? That's crazy. Get a job and look after yourself and your child as he won't.

OriginalSkang · Today 07:25

I don't think there is any coming back from this

DontBuyAnotherBook · Today 07:25

To be fair I often dawdle on the way home from work so I spend less time with my kids especially my youngest. I think people over use the word abuse on here. It isn't abusive to say what he has said.

user1476613140 · Today 07:26

Women can feel like this getting up to care for children each day especially if there's additional needs. Your DH needs support. Has he seen a mental health professional yet? If not ask him to seek help.

Stop judging him please. He isn't coping. He is being vocal about it. He's letting you know that he needs help. Listen to him.

Iocanepowder · Today 07:27

I think the next step for you both is to have a sit down and have an adult conversation about what you both need to do next to improve things. He needs to be look at practical and proactive solutions rather than just moaning at you.

I would also encourage you in this situation to look at getting back to work for your own financial security.

Newstart3 · Today 07:28

It's not nice but he is being honest..
I do think you should work on it together as you are a team.and it's possible he is depressed. For the 1st two year of my childs life I really struggled and used to really dread my days off alone with him. I was depressed! Since then I have started anti depressants and now I love my days off with him so it's possible to turn things around. What is it that he dislikes? Is it the noise and chaos? If so you can work on that together. Help him through it and in sure he can help you through life events that you struggle with.dont just call him and arsehole (unless he actually is one of course!)

NeatPinkFinch · Today 07:29

Time to end the relationship OP. He is being a complete arse.

Iocanepowder · Today 07:29

DontBuyAnotherBook · Today 07:25

To be fair I often dawdle on the way home from work so I spend less time with my kids especially my youngest. I think people over use the word abuse on here. It isn't abusive to say what he has said.

I would have to agree with this tbh.

My kids are young, and people often tell me they need the commute from work to de-stress. I wfh and have the kids immediately either end of work and other parents tell me that would drive them nuts.

NeatPinkFinch · Today 07:32

Of course it’s abusive!!! He’s being absolutely vile to you and your shared child that you have been looking after all day. He should be helping you not avoiding you!!!

Why are men still getting away with this disgusting behaviour? Because women are still making excuses for them!

TheGreatDownandOut · Today 07:33

I don’t think his actual feelings are unreasonable, many of us have become exhausted with the daily grind of having a small child. It’s relentless. I often said I love my DC but I don’t love being a parent. But the way he is framing it and the fact that he has told you in the way he has IS unreasonable. He needs to get over it some how, whether that’s a visit to a GP if he is depressed or if it’s just plain selfishness he needs to suck it up. That’s the definition of putting your child first. You put their feelings of needing a present parent above your own feelings of wanting to escape. It gets so much easier when they’re older IME. I also wouldn’t have any more kids with him!