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I assumed my children were included in brother’s barbecue invitation

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Notmotherofflowergirls · Yesterday 13:16

So you receive a text from your brother himself the father of a one year old, asking if you and your husband want to come to a barbecue on a Sunday afternoon.

Would you expect that your two children were included in the invitation?

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HardyFox · Yesterday 14:33

Why would he think you would prefer to be at his rather than doing something with your children on a Sunday afternoon?
My children don’t go or stay anywhere they are not wanted so any awkwardness and I ‘d pack us all back in the car and leave…. And next time it would be thanks but no thanks, we do things with our children on a weekend.

InterestedDad37 · Yesterday 14:35

Weird brother. Play him at his own game, and be a stickler for details - message him to say (for example) that a BBQ strictly speaking refers to the cooking of meat outdoors, and you were disconcerted to be offered salads too.
I know that's totally fruitcake, but let him know how odd he is.

Livelovelaughfuckoff · Yesterday 14:36

Notmotherofflowergirls · Yesterday 13:45

He apparently gets very frustrated with us as in my mother and me and our communication style. He prefers texting.
So he invites my mum and sometimes her partner. Next time he might invite just my mum so she will ring to check if partner can come and brother will simply refer her to the text again.
If we were having an informal event and someone said they had a guest we would say bring them along. My brother would just say Oh that’s unfortunate.

Your brother sounds like a bit of a dick to be honest. In future I would assume if children's names are not mentioned specifically that they are not invited. Not sure I would feel that inclined to go. Fair enough if it was adults only but there were babies there so I'm not sure why he couldn't just invite your children.

mcmooberry · Yesterday 14:39

Where would he think your children would be? With your mother? Or her uninvited partner?

AwayWiththeGoblins · Yesterday 14:42

Notmotherofflowergirls · Yesterday 13:45

He apparently gets very frustrated with us as in my mother and me and our communication style. He prefers texting.
So he invites my mum and sometimes her partner. Next time he might invite just my mum so she will ring to check if partner can come and brother will simply refer her to the text again.
If we were having an informal event and someone said they had a guest we would say bring them along. My brother would just say Oh that’s unfortunate.

So he’s got a deeply peculiar style of communication? Why ask whether other people would assume the invitation included their children, if we don’r know your brother, who is an oddball?

LaurieFairyCake · Yesterday 14:45

But it wasn’t adults only, he only invited his brother? (He’s very weird)

DearDenimEagle · Yesterday 14:45

Notmotherofflowergirls · Yesterday 13:45

He apparently gets very frustrated with us as in my mother and me and our communication style. He prefers texting.
So he invites my mum and sometimes her partner. Next time he might invite just my mum so she will ring to check if partner can come and brother will simply refer her to the text again.
If we were having an informal event and someone said they had a guest we would say bring them along. My brother would just say Oh that’s unfortunate.

If he’d refer to the text, it suggests his text is to be taken literally. You know he would not include a guest if he learned about them later, You know what he is like..so why would you expect children to be invited if the text did not mention them, just as happened with your mother and partner. The invitees are named in the text.
Glad he’s not my brother ☺️

ListenToTheAirport · Yesterday 14:45

Notmotherofflowergirls · Yesterday 13:47

Oh this BBQ was not a burger and sausage type BBQ.

What other types of BBQ are there?!

FeliciaFancybottom · Yesterday 14:47

I'm also slightly frustrated with your communication style OP.

Newstart3 · Yesterday 14:49

Yes your a family unit. If you and your DH are invited and it's event that is usually child friendly such as an afternoon BBQ yes of course.

Bluesclues1 · Yesterday 14:49

Is there some sort of massive backstory here? I’m guessing your username is some sort of hint/dig?

Rachelshair · Yesterday 14:51

He sounds very hard work and rude. Inviting close family to family parties without their kids, when other kids are there, is odd.

YourJoyousDenimExpert · Yesterday 14:53

What on earth did he think you’d do with your children on a Sunday afternoon??

MidnightPatrol · Yesterday 14:55

Where did he think your children would otherwise be on a Sunday afternoon…?

rainbowstardrops · Yesterday 14:55

Your brother is …….. odd. To put it mildly.
Why do you bother entertaining his strangeness?

lanthanum · Yesterday 14:56

Afternoon, I would assume that pre-teens were invited too, unless the invitation was clearly worded "would you and DH like to come...".
Evening, I'd check if it wasn't explicit.

Babies are always a bit different to mobile kids; less easy to leave at home, and less disruptive to adult company.

My mil is now making things very explicit, after the time we were visiting and she'd planned an evening get-together with adult family, and someone turned up with their kids. However nothing was said, extra chairs were hastily found, and it all worked out. DD did a great job of entertaining the kids, who had probably never met an adult who willingly talks minecraft before.

Thisisit26 · Yesterday 15:02

@Notmotherofflowergirls I bet it’s a case of not wanting older kids around precious babies , I’ve come across it here and in RL. Parents of babies judging and intolerant of older kids like they can’t even imagine their babies will turn into them 🙄🙄🙄
Awful behaviour, ridiculous! I can’t imagine making small family members feel
unwelcome or not invite them , how low like …

WonderingWanda · Yesterday 15:11

This is highly unusual for a family bbq. I think your brother has issues. At least you now know to check, or you could just send a message saying "DB please don't bother inviting us again unless the invite includes our children, you are well aware we are a family"

WildLeader · Yesterday 15:11

Just keep going with your kids, ignore your weirdo brother.

make HIM be specific and then you can have the conversation about WtAF does he think you’re supposed to do with your small children while he extends invites to you only and exclude them? Tell him he’s being weird and it’s invite one, expect all, unless otherwise notified by you/your h

stop putting up with this nonsense

NotMeAtAll · Yesterday 15:15

Notmotherofflowergirls · Yesterday 13:47

Oh this BBQ was not a burger and sausage type BBQ.

Was it a swinger's party?

SpaceRaccoon · Yesterday 15:17

What did your brother expect you and DH to do with your children - leave them unattended?
I don't like the sound of him tbh.

godmum56 · Yesterday 15:20

Notmotherofflowergirls · Yesterday 13:30

100% admit the text only mentioned my DH’s name.

We never imagined however, that an afternoon BBQ did not include our kids.

We arrived to find that they weren’t expected. Our cousin was there with their baby and a few friends, one of whom had a baby.

As for ringing to check, this is a major, major issue for my brother.

why do you go along with this idiocy? Is he a great brother?

Notmotherofflowergirls · Yesterday 15:22

FeliciaFancybottom … You’re not my brother or SiL are you?

I sort of guessed people would to h on neurodivergence - he is not neurodivergent. If he were neurodivergent, his behaviour would be easier to explain.

He is well educated in a profession where he could make real money but he works for a ‘collective’ helping refugees and the most vulnerable in society. In real life he is compassionate.

He is witty and seems to be very central in his circle.
He is Godfather to cousin’s baby.

I am assuming the three babies present ( and there was a dog) were invited.

The text, to be fair stated who was invited but I assumed that my children were as well.

I would say that they do more formal events than is usual in our family.

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DeftGoldHedgehog · Yesterday 15:22

What did he expect, that you would get a babysitter for a family BBQ?

MeridaBrave · Yesterday 15:25

Before 7pm yes, after 7pm no. If over 11/12 and no babysitter needed I woukd probably check as it wouldn’t be clear.