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To refuse to be a witness against colleague??

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Pukkajones · 09/12/2025 14:28

Christmas party, a few nights ago. At a hotel, as it was timed with a big sales meeting, so everyone staying over, 200 ish people, free bar as well as a formal dinner.
Drinking very much encouraged. Staff ages ranged from early 20s to the senior staff in their 50s. Everyone VERY merry.
One colleague, let’s call her Jenny, got a bit carried away, throwing shapes on the dance floor, too touchy feely with men and women apparently then groped one older male colleagues testicles at which point friends grabbed hold of her and steered her off up stairs to her room.
She escaped. Came back down - paralytic at this point - and flashed her boobs at a senior male colleague! In the side bar area so fewer people around me being one of them. Another colleague and I intervened and friends got her again and put her to bed, this time someone stayed with her.

Now I’m being asked to come and tell what I saw to her line manager. I’m in training for an event at the moment so it’s common knowledge that I wasn’t drinking and was sober.

I really don’t want to. She’s lovely, usually quiet and sensible, the company got her poleaxed and now want to carpet her. I’m not a bloody snitch plus - why can’t the guy she flashed at say what happened. Why do I need to be involved???

I’ve been working away since the party so have no idea what is being said in office other than the OMG, Jenny! What was she doing??? Messages. But trust me, there’s plenty of stories from that night… so she’s in good company.

YABU - snitch on her. A man doing that would be in so much trouble.

YANBU - deny seeing anything. If the company ply everyone with that much booze there’s bound to be uncouth behaviour and they probably have enough witnesses already.

OP posts:
ilovesooty · 10/12/2025 21:08

Cailleachnamara · 10/12/2025 21:03

Well he'd be in good company on this thread where someone needs to be marched naked through the streets having shit thrown at them with a jeering mob screaming "shame" to atone for their misdemeanors.

Hyperbole.

Jjjg · 10/12/2025 21:09

Cailleachnamara · 10/12/2025 21:07

What is wrong with you?

My opinion is not "wrong". Your opinion is not "wrong" we simply disagree. People as Alastair Campbell famously said "can disagree agreeably"

Give it a try before you die.

It is wrong.

SwirlyGates · 10/12/2025 21:10

Cailleachnamara · 10/12/2025 20:29

Let she who is without sin cast the first stone.

You sound an absolute joy. Are you a traffic warden?

So you're equating groping colleagues with being a "joy". Charming.

Cailleachnamara · 10/12/2025 21:11

Jjjg · 10/12/2025 21:06

Why? He was sexually assaulted and told the staff who removed her ASAP. Had he slapped a girls behind nobody would have gone and said it was okay.

🙄

Cailleachnamara · 10/12/2025 21:12

ilovesooty · 10/12/2025 21:08

Hyperbole.

G. O. T

fatphalange · 10/12/2025 21:14

ilovesooty · 10/12/2025 20:44

She flashed her boobs, not her bra according to the OP's original post.

From the OP, ‘she flashed her bra’.

Jjjg · 10/12/2025 21:15

fatphalange · 10/12/2025 21:14

From the OP, ‘she flashed her bra’.

A bra is what covers the boobs (that you can still see)

ilovesooty · 10/12/2025 21:15

fatphalange · 10/12/2025 21:14

From the OP, ‘she flashed her bra’.

Not what she said in the first post.

Cailleachnamara · 10/12/2025 21:16

Jjjg · 10/12/2025 21:09

It is wrong.

It must be great to see the world in such black and white. I can't imagine having such a rigid brain or thought process that cannot accept another person's point of view.

Jjjg · 10/12/2025 21:16

SwirlyGates · 10/12/2025 21:10

So you're equating groping colleagues with being a "joy". Charming.

Apparently when you're drunk at a party it's okay to act like this. Nothing about any basic decent standards. Why not flash your knickers as well?

TrippingOverMyAssets · 10/12/2025 21:16

fatphalange · 10/12/2025 21:14

From the OP, ‘she flashed her bra’.

From the OP ‘she grabbed a colleagues testicles’.

Jjjg · 10/12/2025 21:16

Cailleachnamara · 10/12/2025 21:16

It must be great to see the world in such black and white. I can't imagine having such a rigid brain or thought process that cannot accept another person's point of view.

I actually have some morals and act with decency in my life.

Sounds like you could learn a bit.

Jjjg · 10/12/2025 21:17

TrippingOverMyAssets · 10/12/2025 21:16

From the OP ‘she grabbed a colleagues testicles’.

But PP says OP "didn't see that".

Cailleachnamara · 10/12/2025 21:19

SwirlyGates · 10/12/2025 21:10

So you're equating groping colleagues with being a "joy". Charming.

The OP witnessed no groping! Yet you want this woman hung drawn and quartered on hearsay and office gossip. Merry fucking Christmas!

Jjjg · 10/12/2025 21:20

Cailleachnamara · 10/12/2025 21:19

The OP witnessed no groping! Yet you want this woman hung drawn and quartered on hearsay and office gossip. Merry fucking Christmas!

Gossip - other people's eyewitness testimony. Would you at least say the groping is wrong (if it did happen)?

fatphalange · 10/12/2025 21:24

TrippingOverMyAssets · 10/12/2025 21:16

From the OP ‘she grabbed a colleagues testicles’.

Did you not read the part where she said that was gossip and she didn’t see that?

fatphalange · 10/12/2025 21:27

Jjjg · 10/12/2025 21:15

A bra is what covers the boobs (that you can still see)

Oh come on 😂

Cailleachnamara · 10/12/2025 21:28

Jjjg · 10/12/2025 21:16

I actually have some morals and act with decency in my life.

Sounds like you could learn a bit.

Ah yes now we have it, the old "morals" chestnut. You do realise that morals are personal principles and not some fixed standard hmm? Moral standards are not yours to dictate.

You see what you see as your "morals" and "decency" I see as closed mindedness, judgement and prudishness.

My moral code includes kindness, charity and not vilifying someone for a minor drunken mistake.

Won't be replying to any further comments from you as it is a pointless exercise as you are incapable of being reasonable. Good night and have a nice life where hopefully you don't meet too many other people like yourself.

Cailleachnamara · 10/12/2025 21:32

Jjjg · 10/12/2025 21:20

Gossip - other people's eyewitness testimony. Would you at least say the groping is wrong (if it did happen)?

🥱

Jjjg · 10/12/2025 21:35

Cailleachnamara · 10/12/2025 21:28

Ah yes now we have it, the old "morals" chestnut. You do realise that morals are personal principles and not some fixed standard hmm? Moral standards are not yours to dictate.

You see what you see as your "morals" and "decency" I see as closed mindedness, judgement and prudishness.

My moral code includes kindness, charity and not vilifying someone for a minor drunken mistake.

Won't be replying to any further comments from you as it is a pointless exercise as you are incapable of being reasonable. Good night and have a nice life where hopefully you don't meet too many other people like yourself.

Simply being drunk doesn't take away responsibility for actions. I know how to behave, especially at work and in the presence of others.

Perhaps this person (and you) should think about how your actions affect the people around you.

Jjjg · 10/12/2025 21:37

Cailleachnamara · 10/12/2025 21:32

🥱

Funny you can't answer.

Cailleachnamara · 10/12/2025 21:37

Jjjg · 10/12/2025 21:35

Simply being drunk doesn't take away responsibility for actions. I know how to behave, especially at work and in the presence of others.

Perhaps this person (and you) should think about how your actions affect the people around you.

🥱

Chiseltip · 10/12/2025 21:40

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What?

Would you say the same if a man groped a woman's crotch?

WigglywagglyWanda · 10/12/2025 21:47

We've lost sight of what a drunken office party looks like🤣

Some real belters on this thread, right up there with the tradie shitting in their toilet

Cailleachnamara · 10/12/2025 21:48

Jjjg · 10/12/2025 21:37

Funny you can't answer.

Won't answer not can't.

There's is no point in trying to debate something with a closed minded bully who's only raison d'etre is to keep flogging a dead horse of an argument to prove how fucking superior they and their belief system are.

You are a total bore. I am currently experiencing the 32nd hour of a power cut while living in the middle of nowhere - but sitting in the cold and dark is still sooo much more fun than trying to communicate intelligently with you.

This time I really am fucking off so you can have that last word that you so clearly crave for validation. Ciao.

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