To refuse to be a witness against colleague??

[Pukkajones]

Christmas party, a few nights ago. At a hotel, as it was timed with a big sales meeting, so everyone staying over, 200 ish people, free bar as well as a formal dinner.
Drinking very much encouraged. Staff ages ranged from early 20s to the senior staff in their 50s. Everyone VERY merry.
One colleague, let’s call her Jenny, got a bit carried away, throwing shapes on the dance floor, too touchy feely with men and women apparently then groped one older male colleagues testicles at which point friends grabbed hold of her and steered her off up stairs to her room.
She escaped. Came back down - paralytic at this point - and flashed her boobs at a senior male colleague! In the side bar area so fewer people around me being one of them. Another colleague and I intervened and friends got her again and put her to bed, this time someone stayed with her.

Now I’m being asked to come and tell what I saw to her line manager. I’m in training for an event at the moment so it’s common knowledge that I wasn’t drinking and was sober.

I really don’t want to. She’s lovely, usually quiet and sensible, the company got her poleaxed and now want to carpet her. I’m not a bloody snitch plus - why can’t the guy she flashed at say what happened. Why do I need to be involved???

I’ve been working away since the party so have no idea what is being said in office other than the OMG, Jenny! What was she doing??? Messages. But trust me, there’s plenty of stories from that night… so she’s in good company.

YABU - snitch on her. A man doing that would be in so much trouble.

YANBU - deny seeing anything. If the company ply everyone with that much booze there’s bound to be uncouth behaviour and they probably have enough witnesses already.

And I hope we can all agree that, while many men might be able to shrug off sexual assault with barely a second thought, that is far from a universal truth. Sexual assault, by non-consensual touching of genitals, is absolutely a serious wrong - regardless of how the particular victim actually reacts, because of the range of reasonably foreseeable reactions.

You keep writing angry responses that have nothing to do with what I have posted.

At no point have I argued that sexual assaults are equally serious regardless of the sexes of those involved.

In fact - quite the opposite - I have twice said that many/most men would likely brush off having their genitals non-consentually groped. That is largely because they're unlikely to feel threatened.

Rant and name call all you like, as incoherently as you like, but when you ignorantly spread harmful myths about rape and other sexual assaults, like "women don't become lubricated unless they consent", I will continue to challenge you.

Absolutely.
There are numetous papers on involuntary orgasm during rape and thinkimg it cannot possibly happen and if one oes, than she/he enjoyed it is really really harmful and actually reportedly can stop victim coming forward.
It's body reaction.

Yes. My DS didn't take it, and reported the girl for what she did. Bouncers offered to hold her there if he wanted to call the police but he was fine with just kicking her out.

It wasn't rape, but definitely not okay.

Why on earth do you keep (fourth post about it) going on about your son in a completely different situation in a completely different setting on this thread?

Completely, she is like a broken record🙄

We all just love somebody who twists it on its head.

You fill your boots, as regardless of what you claim, you are in fact attempting to downgrade rape against a woman by plucking out nonsense from papers and ridiculous stats.

Men do not suffer the same fate as women do. The penis is the weapon and considered as such. It is used as violence that can cause unwanted pregnancy via the act of rape.

I am not angry. I am simply amused at you trying to circumvent reality and facts. Let me know next time when a man runs to the police traumatised as a woman climbed on top of him and managed to hold him down, much less managed to sustain his erection and cause his ejaculation🙄

Perhaps a misogynistic website is more your thing? The ones where they pluck out feeble defences and try to counter horrific crimes against women with bulshit whataboutery.

And your foolish responses very much did indicate that you were pulling up rubbish from Google.

Keep going my dear, as the last word is something you clearly crave.

Of course. Coming from the person who attempts to portray men as being equal victims of rape as women are.

I strongly suggest you reread your posts and how they are peppered in irony as regards your last reply. And then you clutch at incel insults simply because somebody called you out on your rubbish.

I thought that there might have been drinks involved before but since it keeps going, I guess not.

There was no need for that level of confusing aggression because someone pointed out that while in UK rape is only defined as penentration by penis, in many other places it is defined wider. And yes, even in, what was it, ah "civilised countries".
It was quite simple. Combined with absolute BS about physiological responses to unwanted stimuli, misreading and misrepresenting what posters say, I too am thinking someone here is being obtuse and aggressive on purpose.

@NotFBI

Thanks, it has been a very weird experience.

I see s/he is still at it.