To be so fed up amd disheartened with all the xenophobia

[Nohqters]

Honestly, I’m just feeling worn out and heartbroken lately. It seems like racism and xenophobia are becoming more and more mainstream again, wrapped up in the same tired scare stories, whether it’s splashed across a tabloid or coming straight out of Farage’s mouth. Then you see stupid threads on here about civil war trying to stir up more hate.

Even my own brother has started sounding like Tommy Robinson. Ten years ago, that would’ve been unthinkable. It’s like people have completely forgotten the lies we were sold during Brexit—by Farage, Tice and their crowd—and yet they’re still lapping up everything they say. No critical thought, just blind anger pointed in the wrong direction.
I’m so fed up with the endless nonsense about small boats, “white minorities,” and all the rest of it. It’s all designed to divide us, stoke hate, and distract from the real culprits—rubbish politicians, broken policies, and the ultra-wealthy hoarding resources while the rest of us struggle.

But instead of looking upwards, it’s always “blame Johnny Foreigner.” It’s exhausting, and frankly terrifying how quickly people fall for it.

Is anyone else feeling this? How are you managing conversations when even close family seem to be buying into this stuff? I’m trying to stay compassionate, but it’s getting harder to bite my tongue.

They collect the data. They just don’t publish it.

There is Taliban in Pakistan. Regardless, my point is that people fleeing these types of oppressive regimes clearly don't agree with them, or they'd have no need to flee.

I don't think girls walking around in school girl outfits are safe anywhere. Hence the sexual assault of my daughter by her best friends dad, as I've already referenced.

So I repeat again, the common denominator in these crimes, is disgusting men, not skin colour or country of birth.

I’ve looked over all the news articles
Theres nothing

I havent looked at YouTube or gb news because I don’t go them

So nothing prominently, of even in the small print, that I can find
Do you have a link or name of the news article that gave this shocking figure.

Personal stances on other issues aren’t a substitute for evidence. It’s entirely possible to hold progressive views in some areas and still make unfounded or biased claims in others.

Agree
posters here do not want to know that most of the world has strict border controls and their people, politicians are not facist, racist or xenophobic… they just run their country with the safety of citizens, and manage fiscal policy/economy/employment & immigration.

UK is a ship of fools, run by clowns whose idea of “Great britain” is not one of those tiny cars full with loads of clowns …. But rather an inflatable boat full of men arriving at night with some of the sad face clowns drowning.

Nonsense. No one is an advocate for illegal immigration.

Exactly this. It was the same entitled rhetoric during the pandemic - people lecturing others with 'how hard is it to stay home!?' as they're sitting comfortably in their detached house with an enormous garden in Surrey baking bread all day, while the reality for many in inner London was a bed - and a desk at the end of it!
This is the exact same scenario. They haven't got a clue what's really going on.

It’s incredibly ironic of you to call someone stupid using the worst grammar and punctuation I’ve seen from anyone else on this thread.

You are perfectly painting an image of a typical Reform voter, do carry on.

Id suggest you take your head out of your arse and read the thread, your claim will be answered and you will look awfully foolish 🙄

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/uk-riots-how-many-reported-domestic-abuse-396063/

I have made an FOI request myself out of curiousity! But here is the article. If this thread is still up when I hear back then I will post it.

Also, there was a protester called Paul Rock at the recent ones, an Irish guy, Google him 😊

Whilst there are a lot of insults on this thread I don’t see an issue with the discussion. It falls in line with an alternative viewpoint of the thread

Its interesting to see other people’s viewpoints. I wouldn’t want to live in a bubble and ignore them.

Well. I only had to read the headline to see it’s NOT 40% of people at the riots!!

The stats are only based on those arrested

Your previous comment was therefore inaccurate and very misleading

I'm so sick of the racist card getting thrown at people who are questioning why 1000's of military aged men want to enter the UK illegally!

I've said this on other threads, for the majority of people upset about what's happening it has nothing to do with the colour of someone's skin. It's to do with values, culture and religion. Different religions most people are very accepting of but not in any extreme form. Culture is a huge issue , a lot of these men come from countries where marrying a 9 year old child is fairgame - that's not OK!

Sorry yes, 40% of those arrested. But they were still there! Caring about women as they are. Just concerned 😉

Yes its interesting hearing other peoples experiences and viewpoints but insults are not necessary and can intimidate others from contributing.

I'd be genuinely interested if an independent statistician could analyse the data to check whether the claims are distorted in any way. Any takers?

“Let’s be honest, if everyone had a decent standard of living, no one would care what nationality their neighbour was”

Why on earth would it matter what nationality our neighbours are?

I wouldn’t want a neighbour whose behaviour meant I couldn’t safely leave my house, and if their behaviour impacted my life I wouldn’t expect to be called racist for having a problem with it. But that’s exactly what’s happening to too many people right now.

Some of you seem so hellbent on misinterpreting what’s being said to twist it to racism that it’s making the whole thread bizarre to read.

Yes 40% of people arrested. That's staggeringly high isn't it. 40% of the people arrested for offences at a 'protest' to show support for women and girls have convictions for harming women and girls....weird eh

I absolutely agree
I report them but clearly there’s a cunning way to insult without it being direct. I wish MNHQ would take that on board more

It’s 20 times more likely to be convicted not ‘commit’. Language matters. You can’t be trusted if you change the language to suit your agenda.

The police are known to be institutionally racist - do you think that has something to do with it?

Also the Centre for Migration control has no credentials. It’s one guy called Robert Bates - part of Reform who’s gathering data from FOI requests and manipulating the data to suit his ends. Look it up.

Yes. I am a socialist and find the EU to be deeply pro big business and rather anti-union in some respects. I am nothing like T. Benn - except that I also keep an extensive diary.

Your the one twisting things. People who think these 'protests' are ridiculous care about safety. We care about safety, for everyone, from everyone. Not only from "undocumented men of fighting age who came here illegally™"

I agree it’s still disgusting and very ironic
However the Previous post said 40% of all demonstrators.

Thats inflammatory. If we stick to the actual facts they are still shocking.

Yes, that was a simple misquote. I didn’t have it in front of me when I wrote the post and it was off the top of my head. Still, I apologised. I don’t always remember things word for word but will happily admit when I’m wrong.

But is he manipulating the data? Or asking questions that aren't usually posed?

Genuine question. Can someone analyse the data and let us know the findings?