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Why are so many men perverts?

213 replies

Larna4t · 23/05/2025 18:31

I just got sexually harassed by a tarot card reader. The most bizarre place to be sexually harassed! It was at one of those walk in places near a beach

He was looking at the cards, talking about my relationships and he said "it looks like you are single ". I said ""yeah i am i want to be single i don't want a relationship reallly'
He said "oh yeah you can just go out for a few shags that's just as good".
I was taken aback. He said again "you can go out and have a good shag'
I said "no i dont do that".

He then said "did someone just die. " i said "yes my dad'
He said 'i bet you were a naughty girl for your dad. You naughty naughty girl'.

I said "im leaving". What the fuck!

Last week i was at a poetry group. We all wrote and read out a poem. The women all wrote about families , love , beach walks etc.
The man wrote "a funny poem (his words)" about his testicles and sex. No one found it funny.

In my last workplace two of my male colleagues were "joking" about masturbating. I felt a bit sick

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putitdown356 · 23/05/2025 20:17

Poem could be funny depending on situation, but tarot card reader is pervy and the comment about naughty girl/dad is weird horrible and completely out of order.

Disturbia81 · 23/05/2025 20:22

Yep. Just today:
I’ve has a colleague tell me he has cancer, I was sympathising with him, he asked for a hug which I felt I should do after what he told me and he whispered to me “I dream about you all the time and I shouldn’t as I’m married” wtf
The bus driver complimented me on my band tee, I said thankyou, then he stroked my hand as I gave him the money
Men shouting things out of cars

It’s constant, and just kind of accepted even nowadays. And it’s getting more as I get older

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/05/2025 20:30

YellowOrangePink · 23/05/2025 18:36

Women can be just as bad. You're just sexist

Nah bruv. Not true!

Larna4t · 23/05/2025 20:30

Disturbia81 · 23/05/2025 20:22

Yep. Just today:
I’ve has a colleague tell me he has cancer, I was sympathising with him, he asked for a hug which I felt I should do after what he told me and he whispered to me “I dream about you all the time and I shouldn’t as I’m married” wtf
The bus driver complimented me on my band tee, I said thankyou, then he stroked my hand as I gave him the money
Men shouting things out of cars

It’s constant, and just kind of accepted even nowadays. And it’s getting more as I get older

I think a lot of them don't see us as human, just things for their sexual pleasure.

They certainly dont care hoe we feel or if they make us umcomfortable

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Butchyrestingface · 23/05/2025 20:31

YellowOrangePink · 23/05/2025 18:36

Women can be just as bad. You're just sexist

Behave yourself.

Mummadeze · 23/05/2025 20:35

I honestly think you should report that tarot reader to the police. Both things he said to you were disgusting and must have made you feel vulnerable and uncomfortable. He shouldn’t be allowed to practice and sounds like a threat to young women who will often be alone with. Totally gross.

Disturbia81 · 23/05/2025 20:36

Larna4t · 23/05/2025 20:30

I think a lot of them don't see us as human, just things for their sexual pleasure.

They certainly dont care hoe we feel or if they make us umcomfortable

So true. It’s like when they’re on their own or in laddy groups they go feral and animalistic, predator hunting prey. Like they lose their humanity and intelligence
which is then a huge contrast to when we speak to our male family members, friends, colleagues, professionals etc and they behave normally.
It makes me wonder if they all do it when on their own, and they hide it the rest of the time. Because all these sleazy men I encounter are someones loving husband, brother, son etc

Oxpeckercarnival · 23/05/2025 20:37

Tarot guy is weird and creepy. Poetry guy and the bawdy jokes at work need to know their audience- personally I find adult humour funny but I understand some don't and I'm sensitive to that.

Disturbia81 · 23/05/2025 20:37

Mummadeze · 23/05/2025 20:35

I honestly think you should report that tarot reader to the police. Both things he said to you were disgusting and must have made you feel vulnerable and uncomfortable. He shouldn’t be allowed to practice and sounds like a threat to young women who will often be alone with. Totally gross.

All women, not just young.

Picklechicken · 23/05/2025 20:39

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 23/05/2025 20:14

No, I think just randomly talking about it to somebody who you aren't certain will appreciate it is highly inappropriate, though.

I'm not saying that she was anything like as bad as tarot guy - he sounds utterly dreadful and should be reported; but she could have done with a filter too.

That’s taken massively out of context. The women said it to a man she was dating and having a sexual relationship with! It’s hardly being creepy to have a laugh about having a sneaky wank during the day with someone you’re sleeping with. She thought he’d laugh and they’d move on.

It’s not the same thing at all as some random man in a work / hobby / leisure environment suddenly turning the conversation into sex. Just vile.

YellowOrangePink · 23/05/2025 20:39

Butchyrestingface · 23/05/2025 20:31

Behave yourself.

I know. I was being mischievous. Heartened by the sane response. I feel better.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 23/05/2025 20:49

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 23/05/2025 20:14

No, I think just randomly talking about it to somebody who you aren't certain will appreciate it is highly inappropriate, though.

I'm not saying that she was anything like as bad as tarot guy - he sounds utterly dreadful and should be reported; but she could have done with a filter too.

'Somebody who you aren't certain will appreciate it'...'Highly inappropriate'...You're making it sound like workplace harassment or something when she was having a private joke with her boyfriend. None of these examples are the same.

Disturbia81 · 23/05/2025 20:50

YellowOrangePink · 23/05/2025 20:39

I know. I was being mischievous. Heartened by the sane response. I feel better.

Thank god you were joking!

hazelnutvanillalatte · 23/05/2025 20:53

And yes, I don't know why. From a man masturbating through my bedroom window when I was 4, to men 'offering rides' when I was walking to school aged 14, to the man who sat next to me on a plane and then tried to follow me home...of course it's not all, but it's a lot.

I thought this when I was reading about the awful Gisele Pelicot case...that not only was this one man sexually depraved, but he found almost 100 other men who not only condoned the behaviour but took part in it as well.

Picklechicken · 23/05/2025 20:57

hazelnutvanillalatte · 23/05/2025 20:53

And yes, I don't know why. From a man masturbating through my bedroom window when I was 4, to men 'offering rides' when I was walking to school aged 14, to the man who sat next to me on a plane and then tried to follow me home...of course it's not all, but it's a lot.

I thought this when I was reading about the awful Gisele Pelicot case...that not only was this one man sexually depraved, but he found almost 100 other men who not only condoned the behaviour but took part in it as well.

Yes I thought of that case reading this thread too. So many “normal” (not normal but hey) men prepared to rape a drugged woman. And how many more were engaging in the forums it was arranged through? It’s absolutely disgusting. Men are just led by their dicks. Women do not behave the same way.

ScholesPanda · 23/05/2025 21:33

Men are definitely pervier than women and of course the stats for sexual assault, rape etc. don't lie. Women don't cat call or kerb crawl either.

The tarot guy is a disgusting pig and you should report him. What a horrible thing to happen to you.

However, in terms of the guys in the office making jokes about wanking, since someone asked for examples:
A woman in my office had an allergic reaction that caused her lips to swell up. When I asked her middle aged female boss if she was ok, she said to the whole team "Yes, just too many blowjobs probably."

We had a twenty year old lad start working for us, two women in their fifties tried to drag me into a conversation about his "lovely" legs and bum, and how "big" I thought he might be.

Another woman I worked with admitted she had yoni eggs inside her whilst sat her desk "in case I wondered why she was making strange faces."

One final example, a woman I worked with made it her aim to sleep with as many of the men in the office as possible, and was particularly happy if they were already married because she didn't want them getting too attached.

Men can be worse but women are far from innocent of low level inappropriateness.

YANBU overall though, so that's how I've voted.

Cel77 · 23/05/2025 21:42

I'm like you. Men actually scare/disgust me a lot.

StarDolphins · 23/05/2025 21:45

YellowOrangePink · 23/05/2025 18:36

Women can be just as bad. You're just sexist

That’s not my experience at all. Come on, you’ve really met/heard of as many Percy women as you have men? You just wanted to make it sexiest is my betting.

Ifpicklesweretickles · 23/05/2025 21:49

thetrumanshow · 23/05/2025 20:14

Primary school playground
Male teacher
Mums comments about his body, and specifically his butt and things that he could be good at.

I am sure I can remember a lot of other examples!

That's probably it, isn't. A handful of examples out of your whole life towards men. Whereas some women experience tens a day addressed towards them.

I know some people (a little dim admittedly) who present quite stereotypically masculine or otherwise are intimidating for men to pick on who will say how not all men are. If it's not happening to them it must be not happening.

Also there are some women that hate other women. You must be that.

More likely a pervert of a man yourself.

Mix56 · 23/05/2025 22:07

Yes, I asked my H this evening, having seen 55 french men were arrested in a pedo ring yesterday. “what is it with men that they need to rape & defile children?”
Most of these men would have had a normal home & family, presumably with some sex available.
Not enough apparently.
its just unfathomable

thetrumanshow · 23/05/2025 22:21

Ifpicklesweretickles · 23/05/2025 21:49

That's probably it, isn't. A handful of examples out of your whole life towards men. Whereas some women experience tens a day addressed towards them.

I know some people (a little dim admittedly) who present quite stereotypically masculine or otherwise are intimidating for men to pick on who will say how not all men are. If it's not happening to them it must be not happening.

Also there are some women that hate other women. You must be that.

More likely a pervert of a man yourself.

Edited

that escalated quickly 😂

Also there are some women that hate other women. You must be that.
reading the post you just wrote to me, the only one hating another woman is YOU here.

CloudyPortal · 23/05/2025 22:23

YellowOrangePink · 23/05/2025 18:36

Women can be just as bad. You're just sexist

Really? I find it hard to imagine any woman talking about being a naughty girl for a recently deceased father. Thsts just plain disgusting.

ApplesinmyPocket · 23/05/2025 22:25

"Another woman I worked with admitted she had yoni eggs inside her whilst sat her desk "in case I wondered why she was making strange faces."

Not at all made-up, I'm sure.

Actually, it's a typically male fantasy that women like to stuff their vagina with things for constant 'stimulation'.

Larna4t · 23/05/2025 22:29

ScholesPanda · 23/05/2025 21:33

Men are definitely pervier than women and of course the stats for sexual assault, rape etc. don't lie. Women don't cat call or kerb crawl either.

The tarot guy is a disgusting pig and you should report him. What a horrible thing to happen to you.

However, in terms of the guys in the office making jokes about wanking, since someone asked for examples:
A woman in my office had an allergic reaction that caused her lips to swell up. When I asked her middle aged female boss if she was ok, she said to the whole team "Yes, just too many blowjobs probably."

We had a twenty year old lad start working for us, two women in their fifties tried to drag me into a conversation about his "lovely" legs and bum, and how "big" I thought he might be.

Another woman I worked with admitted she had yoni eggs inside her whilst sat her desk "in case I wondered why she was making strange faces."

One final example, a woman I worked with made it her aim to sleep with as many of the men in the office as possible, and was particularly happy if they were already married because she didn't want them getting too attached.

Men can be worse but women are far from innocent of low level inappropriateness.

YANBU overall though, so that's how I've voted.

I have to say i dont believe this post.

Why on earth would a woman in a workplace say she had a yoni egg inside her and was gettimg pleasure from it.

She would be instantly fired.

What youve written sounds like a male fantasy.

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MferMonsterSearchingForRedemption · 23/05/2025 22:34

I'm sorry you experienced that.

I once saw a fortune teller at some fete with my mum. The man told me I needed to spice up my sex life and wear sexy underwear- he clearly got off on this.

I was a lot younger then so didn't say much, but I wouldn't let someone get away with it now.