To think forced starvation is just plain evil!

[Farticus101]

On the BBC today. The UN has condemned using man made starvation as a war tactic. Surely we can come to a general consensus that whatever you think about the conflict, Israel's actions here are just plain evil?

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/11/there-is-suffering-everywhere-you-look-says-mother-of-emaciated-baby-girl-trapped-in-gaza

Surely you can see that a “general consensus” on this issue is so highly unlikely as to make your thread utterly pointless

It's a tactic that dates back to ancient history. That doesn't excuse it obviously.

It’s wrong and very cruel.

I don't think anyone is going to say it's a lovely thing to do.

It is without doubt evil. The Israel government and army have shown the world what horrors they are capable of.

Not only does my heart break for the 2 million innocent civilians being starved to death, but for the Jewish people who are at risk of rising antisemitism because of a rogue government, led by war criminals.

There are no winners here. This genocide must end by all governments refusing to arm and fund Israel.

It’s an awful thing to do but you’ll get loads of posts saying “but Hamas” so it’s a pointless conversation.
Politics has become so tribal. Everyone seems to feel the need to pick a side when it’s usually far more complex.
For me, I just wish a solution could be found to stop these atrocities committed against innocent civilians.

Of course it’s plain evil, especially when innocent civilians (including children) are caught up in it. There’s just no justification at all. I don’t care what Hamas or anyone else has done

There was outcry when Mariupol was encircled at the beginning of the Ukraine war but I don’t hear similar now

Can I ask what you think would happen is Israel was no longer able to defend itself?

I don’t care what Hamas or anyone else has done

You don’t care about whatthe violent raping terrorists have done? You don’t think it’s at all relevant to the situation?

As indeed have the Gazan government. Thats always the bit that people like you, who make comments like this, leave out, isn’t it?

It’s all just such a mess. Atrocities on both sides. But Isreal are now going too far, what they’re doing now to innocent civilians is just evil.

Called it. First page and we already have ‘what about Hamas’
FFS.
Is it possible that maybe, just maybe, the actions of BOTH Hamas and the Israeli government are deplorable and that innocent people on both ‘sides’ are suffering because of it?!

It’s beyond belief that this is happening in our time. It was never right (England I’m looking at you) and never will be right, barbarism on a grand scale, pure unadulterated evil.
But I’m sure you’ll have those posters along soon who split hairs and tie themselves in knots to somehow say that poor old Israel have been left with no choice but to starve men, women and children….. it’s really the starving people’s fault don’t you know 🥴utterly revolting behaviour which should be held in the highest contempt.

Of course you don’t care what Hamas has done.

If you cared you’d have to question the simplistic good guy/bad narrative you are enjoying.

And maybe you have so dehumanized Israeli children, women and men that you genuinely don’t care. In which case you have become the monster you claim to hate.

Who's "they"?

That’s how I felt about those, the many of those, who said Israeli children, women and men deserved the atrocities of October 7th, and/or and had brought it on themselves.
What else could poor Hamas have done, they intoned.

Horrendous.
An eye for an eye has long past.
So many innocent people slaughtered on October 7th and it continued in Palestine daily since, including innocent aid workers, medics, children, elderly, entire families, gone, while the world watched.

Awful...a siege has always been a war tactic. War is dreadful but that is humans for you.

DARVO

DENY: "oh but we didn't starve or kill that many people, they are lying."

ACCUSE: "They started it with 7.10."
(Yet The Nakba, “catastrophe” in Arabic - the mass displacement and dispossession of Palestinians - occured in 1948.)

REVERSE VICTIM OFFENDER: "BUT WE ARE THE VICTIMS HERE!"
(yeah right, with your huge bombs and Trump and Starmer supporting you, the far right in your government calling the shots, victims don't criminally overreact like this.)

https://prismreports.org/2023/12/11/israel-palestine-domestic-violence-darvo/

Comparing the two is utterly offensive and antisemitic

It's quite a reflection of character isn't it, when people try to defend the indefensible. The killing of aid workers, journalists, paramedics. The bombing of hospitals, universities, camps, civilians.

Ok noted, but did you answer the OPs question?

This. There are no winners here. It’s just powerful people making decisions and other people are crushed by them.