To think forced starvation is just plain evil!

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On the BBC today. The UN has condemned using man made starvation as a war tactic. Surely we can come to a general consensus that whatever you think about the conflict, Israel's actions here are just plain evil?

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/11/there-is-suffering-everywhere-you-look-says-mother-of-emaciated-baby-girl-trapped-in-gaza

I’m not the one who had completely forgotten how we got here.

Calling me disgusting? Did I rape and murder innocent civilians? Did I dance in the streets at other peoples suffering? No I did not. The animals you are supporting did.

What happened in Isreal must never happen again. What did you want them to do? Slap Hamas on the bottom and tell them not to go it again? Grow up!

Some obviously do, going by this thread alone.

What is disgusting is that the guardian had an advertising banner on this article for Guardian Feast, recipes ap!

FFS

I mentioned it as a personal thing
In the context of my post , it was about this particular book and this particular photo I had seen in it !!

1. an antisemitic comment was made first. Are you suggesting racism shouldn’t be called out?
2. Who did this? The first person mentioning the Holocaust, and the only reason this thread went in that direction, was an antisemite
3. The first mentions of Hamas was someone saying “I bet people mention Hamas soon” and another person saying they didn’t care about what Hamas did. But while we are here - do you not think Hamas is relevant to this?
4. Why do you think Sudan isn’t spoken about enough despite the fact it also has starving people?
5. Who said this?
6. Well it is - unless you’re very dim, there’s really no excuse to subscribe to the “goodies vs baddies” nonsense
7. Yes I suggest you do

I really think some people just want to be agreed with completely and never have their views challenged. Given the fury and insults elicits when people “Actually can we just talk about this element” you’d think people just want to stay in their echo chamber

Siege has always been a tactic of warfare, dating back millennia.

It should be a war crime.

Siwar Ashour is hoarse. Her voice has been robbed of the energy to fully communicate her distress. She cannot absorb regular formula milk and doctors say the Israeli blockade now in its third month means supplies of the food she needs are scarce.
Her mother Najwa, 23, is changing Siwar's nappy. She weighs just over 2kg (4lb 6oz). A baby girl of five months should be around or over 6kg.
A local BBC colleague filmed the unmistakable signs of advanced malnutrition on Siwar's body. The head that seems far too big for her frame. The stick-like arms and legs. The ribs pressing against her skin when she tries to cry. The large brown eyes that follow her mother's every small movement.

This is the reality of Israels forced starvation. The most vulnerable in society are the ones to suffer the most.
A baby starving and a mum too weak with malnutrion herself to be able to breastfeed being able to do nothing but comfort her as she is slowly starved.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/czrv5rl73zdo.amp

But what’s your point in saying that?

Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to the Nazis is a form of Holocaust inversion and Holocaust distortion:

Comparing Israeli policy towards Palestinians with Nazi policy regarding Jews is an example of Holocaust inversion, where reality is inverted (the Israelis are cast as the "new" Nazis and the Palestinians as the "new" Jews), and an inversion of morality (the Holocaust is presented as a moral lesson for, or even a moral indictment of, "the Jews").

I absolutely agree that all these actions are awful - but anyone who engages in war is awful. And I don’t understand how some things are accepted like people being bombed but then starvation is just a step too far now we need to be super outraged? And like why is it just Isreal who gets the flack? Of course everyone says how hideous Putin is, sure, but the outrage seems to be so much more visceral and aggressive towards Israel - like they’re somehow worse that any other state engaging in killing and maiming behaviours. And hamas literally raping and be heading innocent people innocent teenagers seems to get this like pass from some people, like it’s justifiable?

Is it because when people on British soil kill innocent people we cry and light some candles, lay some flowers, and then read the newspaper headlines about it for a week before moving on? We’re a very soft nation who let things pass us by without a fight and debate whether a person who stabs a bunch of innocent kids to death deserves the death penalty - it would literally take a world war for us to get up and do something. Other countries aren’t like this, and we find it hard to understand the reactions. And judge their behaviour on our own behaviour and our own experience as having been a peaceful country for the past 80 years. We’ve got this high horse vantage point that our own grandparents or great grand parent wouldn’t be able to look down from - because people do shit they otherwise wouldn’t do when they’re at war.

I just find it weird how people here who have never even visited these places talk so knowingly on this war and take sides like it’s a sports tournament. And then engage, without even realising it, in assigning scores to different types of violence….killing with a gun is better than strangling, beheading and raping hundreds is better than bombing a hospital. It’s all fucking gross. Both sides have their reasons and arguments but if you live by peace, the only option is to love your neighbour and make room for them. So I don’t see why we’re even trying to stir the pot.

This isnt defending themselves, this is calculated murder. A proportionate response is defence. They had passed that point about a week after the terrorist attack.

Could you circle which person looks starved in this photo? Thanks

Exactly. This isnt war. War is Ukraine and Russia, one aggressor and one country fighting back with weapons and their own military.

Whats happening in Gaza is calculated destruction of people and the country itself.

Point number 2 you've got all upside down so I'll refer you to point number 7.

I take it you’re talking about non-Jewish children, because Hamas has made its aim of murdering all Jews very clear.

October 7th hardly happened out of nowhere.

You are disgusting.

Trying to stop comparisons is futile. People can see what is happening.

So why do you think it happened then??

The one who was just about to find out that the wife and daughters he spoke of being desperate to see again had been murdered by Hamas over a year earlier?

Have you a source to this please? I’ve been following this conflict way before October 7th and I’ve never seen that said or discussed before?

All the footage of Hamas parading hostages on stage before releasing them showed us well-fed Palestinians, including numerous Hamas fighters in new uniforms. All very healthy. The only ones who looked starved were the poor hostages.

If there are Palestinians starving, it's the fault of Hamas.

Yeah but people care less about Jewish children that one thing is clear. Hamas don’t give two fucks given what they did to the Bibas children. But yeah, sure, allowing terrorists to have free reign over a people they don’t to destroy so they can do to other kids what they did to those children a brilliant and peaceful idea

Because Hamas are terrorists and want to destroy the Jewish people, and are happy using mindless violence to do so.

Why do you think it happened? Why do you think babies and toddlers were murdered? A form of defence?