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To think forced starvation is just plain evil!

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Farticus101 · 11/05/2025 07:42

On the BBC today. The UN has condemned using man made starvation as a war tactic. Surely we can come to a general consensus that whatever you think about the conflict, Israel's actions here are just plain evil?

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/11/there-is-suffering-everywhere-you-look-says-mother-of-emaciated-baby-girl-trapped-in-gaza

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ssd · 13/05/2025 11:48

Genuinely, to anyone who supports Israel, do you think this response is justified? Please dont make excuses, just answer yes or no.

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/05/2025 11:48

TomeTome · 13/05/2025 00:09

No sane thinking person could look at what has been done to Gaza and justify it.

This ^

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/05/2025 11:49

ssd · 13/05/2025 11:45

I agree with you @Farticus101

It is beyond comprehension

I understand Israel must protect itself and certainly it had to respond to October 7, but this is beyond any response seen before.

This is obliteration.

And this ^

Tryonemoretime · 13/05/2025 15:27

As I understood it, Hamas was raiding aid lorries - which would make sense as they'd need to feed their fighters. Releasing the hostages might help them garner more sympathy....

TomeTome · 13/05/2025 15:31

Allowing food and medical supplies through to Gaza and stopping the bombing might go a long way to “garnering more sympathy” for the Israelis.

DrPrunesqualer · 13/05/2025 18:46

Tryonemoretime · 13/05/2025 15:27

As I understood it, Hamas was raiding aid lorries - which would make sense as they'd need to feed their fighters. Releasing the hostages might help them garner more sympathy....

Aid hasn’t been entering Gaza since the 2nd March
According to the news today 57 children have died of malnutrition and starvation

Martymcfly24 · 13/05/2025 19:51

DrPrunesqualer · 13/05/2025 18:46

Aid hasn’t been entering Gaza since the 2nd March
According to the news today 57 children have died of malnutrition and starvation

Or medical supplies.

The insulin (and other medications)has run out condemning all diabetics to death.

DrPrunesqualer · 13/05/2025 19:55

Martymcfly24 · 13/05/2025 19:51

Or medical supplies.

The insulin (and other medications)has run out condemning all diabetics to death.

Very good point Marty

Its not just food that is needed to sustain life.

of course that exactly what the Israeli Govn don’t want to happen anyway. Evil is the right word here.

Mylegishangingoff · 13/05/2025 20:15

DrPrunesqualer · 13/05/2025 18:46

Aid hasn’t been entering Gaza since the 2nd March
According to the news today 57 children have died of malnutrition and starvation

That's awful, I hadn't heard heard that. Such a difficult thing to go through as a parent, you would give anything for your child but there is nothing you can do but watch them waste away. Just horrific, such an awful way to die.

Farticus101 · 13/05/2025 20:23

Tryonemoretime · 13/05/2025 15:27

As I understood it, Hamas was raiding aid lorries - which would make sense as they'd need to feed their fighters. Releasing the hostages might help them garner more sympathy....

But it was Israel who broke the ceasefire and prevented the release of hostages. As mentioned, the families of the hostages have accused Netanyahu of prolonging the war to gain land, putting the remaining hostages lives in danger.

There is nothing left to argue about. Israel is wiping out Gaza so Netanyahu retains support from extremists in his own country. He will go down in history as a warmongering mass murder who perpetrated a genocide for his own gain. There are so many complicit leaders who have not lifted a finger to stop him. We won't forget who they are.

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Thegreyhound · 13/05/2025 20:35

The whole world can see everything this Israeli government is doing to innocent kids. And that’s despite the fact that Israel has been blowing up journalists at a rate never seen before.

None of the cry bully bullshit works any more. People aren’t stupid. Israel is not a tragic defenceless nation. It is a nuclear power with an iron dome protection system. It is protected endlessly by the US veto even when international law is being broken left right and centre and it is armed to the teeth by countries all over the world. Now it is in the hands of an extreme right wing government run by a crook and ministers who have openly declared genocidal intent.

I’d never query Israel’s right to exist. But let’s not pretend it’s engaged in an equal conflict right now !!

Martymcfly24 · 13/05/2025 20:35

Thank God. I was getting really worried about those pictures of starving babies. So glad the news got it wrong and they are all fine, heading off to school with their packed lunch.

Take your head out of the hasbara and open your eyes. Disgusting.

DrPrunesqualer · 13/05/2025 20:58

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ssd · 13/05/2025 21:27

Imagine the uproar if someone here posted that the recently released American hostage looked well fed and cared for and all these reports of hostages being traumatised was just nonsense and how we shouldn't believe it???

Imagine one of us posting something that stupid and ridiculous??

Then go back and read the various posts on here about how the Palestinians look well fed with fresh haircuts and therevis no famine, its all rubbish...

See the difference??

Glitchymn1 · 13/05/2025 21:44

@DrPrunesqualer There’s something very amiss with you. How you can post that given the subject matter is sickening.

DrPrunesqualer · 13/05/2025 21:46

Glitchymn1 · 13/05/2025 21:44

@DrPrunesqualer There’s something very amiss with you. How you can post that given the subject matter is sickening.

I thought I’d tagged someone who sent a sickening post about there being no starvation.
How everyone looks healthy with nice new haircuts and other crappy comments

I can post my thoughts in whatever format I like.

It's the crappy lies and sickening comments that need to be outed!

Perhaps sound them out because there’s something very amiss there and I’m surprised you haven’t picked up on those tbh

but hey thanks for getting it deleted.

Now let’s see the famine deniers outed

DrPrunesqualer · 13/05/2025 23:12

Children are being Starved by design by the Israeli Governments siege says Save The Children

To think forced starvation is just plain evil!
DrPrunesqualer · 13/05/2025 23:16

This from the same article.

If anyone can donate to Save The Children they have trucks with aid trying to enter Gaza.

To think forced starvation is just plain evil!
Dumbledore167 · 14/05/2025 01:57

Thegreyhound · 13/05/2025 20:35

The whole world can see everything this Israeli government is doing to innocent kids. And that’s despite the fact that Israel has been blowing up journalists at a rate never seen before.

None of the cry bully bullshit works any more. People aren’t stupid. Israel is not a tragic defenceless nation. It is a nuclear power with an iron dome protection system. It is protected endlessly by the US veto even when international law is being broken left right and centre and it is armed to the teeth by countries all over the world. Now it is in the hands of an extreme right wing government run by a crook and ministers who have openly declared genocidal intent.

I’d never query Israel’s right to exist. But let’s not pretend it’s engaged in an equal conflict right now !!

Correct.
Have you watched “where the olive trees weep”? It was filmed before October 23 and depicts so tragically and poignantly the suffering of the Palestinian people.
There is not a one antisemetic bone in my body. I’m appalled at what happened to Jews throughout history, most people are, of course they are, but what Isreal is doing now is beyond comprehension, beyond compassion, beyond humanity.

OhCalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 14/05/2025 03:22

inamarina · 11/05/2025 14:54

So no atrocities happened on October 7th, or what exactly is your point?
I wasn’t talking about any specific claims.
What do you think Hamas and their supporters did on October 7th?

Try reading the post. I didn’t say no atrocities happened. I said Israel’s claim babies were beheaded and put in ovens was a lie. Because it was.

thepariscrimefiles · 14/05/2025 05:14

DrPrunesqualer · 13/05/2025 21:46

I thought I’d tagged someone who sent a sickening post about there being no starvation.
How everyone looks healthy with nice new haircuts and other crappy comments

I can post my thoughts in whatever format I like.

It's the crappy lies and sickening comments that need to be outed!

Perhaps sound them out because there’s something very amiss there and I’m surprised you haven’t picked up on those tbh

but hey thanks for getting it deleted.

Now let’s see the famine deniers outed

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One particularly morally bankrupt poster even said that the problem in Gaza isn't malnutrition/starvation but obesity. Fucking insane.

DrPrunesqualer · 14/05/2025 05:26

thepariscrimefiles · 14/05/2025 05:14

One particularly morally bankrupt poster even said that the problem in Gaza isn't malnutrition/starvation but obesity. Fucking insane.

Blinkered by hate

ssd · 15/05/2025 11:47

Israel’s ‘no hunger in Gaza’ narrative flies in face of obvious evidence.....
www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/14/isreal-no-hunger-in-gaza-narrative-flies-in-face-of-obvious-evidence-famine

fixingmylife · 24/07/2025 05:47

"One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This"

Omar El Akkad, 2025

EllytheNelephant · 26/07/2025 23:14

Israeli military officials have joined the chorus of those blaming Israel for the food shortages:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ZU8.zR1x.cpLjibz4NtZ0&smid=re-share

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