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Trans people

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Mog65 · 17/04/2025 16:46

Firstly, I'm a trans ally

Everyone is up in arms about trans women. What seems to be forgotten these people are human beings. Where is humanity. You have probably been sharing toilets and coming into contact with trans women every day and have no idea. You only hear about the few bad ones. In a public toilet, you go into a cubical and pee. Its not like you're sat there in full public view with your knickers at your ankles.

What has been forgotten also, as many females are changing to. So trans men. So you're in hospital in a ward. The woman in the next bed, identifys as George, clit is now a penis fully working and you're in the next bed! Same person can wander around female only spaces as the law has changed. George can now only be searched by a female. By the way George a transgender man is a pervert! All hypothetical but nobody has brought this up.

Just a thought.

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Clariana · 17/04/2025 16:48

YABU, hope that helps!

Jackiepumpkinhead · 17/04/2025 16:48

Ally.

Hoydenish · 17/04/2025 16:49

I laughed unkindly at alley.

DorothyStorm · 17/04/2025 16:49

just a thought? Im not sure you did tbh.

DrSpartacularsMagnificentOctopus · 17/04/2025 16:50

A clitoris cannot become a penis (and vice versa).

Ohisitjustme · 17/04/2025 16:50

All of this is incorrect

LobeliaBaggins · 17/04/2025 16:50

Ok. You do you. Be an alley or a cul-de-sac if you prefer.

Most of us are not allies. Now we have legal backing.

workingcocker · 17/04/2025 16:50

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Meadowfinch · 17/04/2025 16:51

That's not the point.

The point is that the safety and well being of women should not be jeopardised for a tiny tiny minority. Women's protections have been hard won over more than a century and need to be protected.

Of course, that does not alter the fact that anyone going through or on the other side of transition, is a sentient human being and deserves respect and care. It's just that care and respect can take place separately from women.

Mog65 · 17/04/2025 16:51

Hoydenish · 17/04/2025 16:49

I laughed unkindly at alley.

😂😂 I have edited

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Sparkling2006 · 17/04/2025 16:52

Autogyphelia broke the we just want to pee spell. Keep up.

ClimbOnFriend · 17/04/2025 16:52

Trying to use transmen as some kind of gotcha is in such poor taste. None of these people cared a jot about transmen before they were in some way useful in an argument. George is female, he’s very welcome in women’s spaces.

SantasLargerHelper · 17/04/2025 16:53

Cool story bro 😎

Mog65 · 17/04/2025 16:53

DrSpartacularsMagnificentOctopus · 17/04/2025 16:50

A clitoris cannot become a penis (and vice versa).

The clitoris is used in the making of the penis.

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CarrotParrot · 17/04/2025 16:53

Clit is now a fully working penis?

Bollocks

bridgetreilly · 17/04/2025 16:54

Oh sweetie. No one cares if men want to dress up as women or girls want to dress as boys. But men can’t access female healthcare and women can’t play men’s rugby.

UndermyShoeJoe · 17/04/2025 16:54

Mens bodies penises and all don’t belong in women’s spaces.

They can use a third space if they don’t ironically feel safe around men.

Also lesbians don’t have penises.

TheNightingalesStarling · 17/04/2025 16:54

I've known several transwomen. Some were nice people. One really wasn't, who thrived on making women uncomfortable then claiming they were transphobic.

I will happily campaign for safe spaces for transwomen and transfer in addition to single sex spaces.

AshesofTime · 17/04/2025 16:54

A clit cannot become a working penis. A man cannot be a woman. Trans men are female and as such pose far less risk than men (including men who claim to be trans. HTH.

Branconche · 17/04/2025 16:54

The moment someone uses the word "female" instead of "woman" (especially when they use "man" and not "male" in the same sentence), I'm out

Hoydenish · 17/04/2025 16:55

Mog65 · 17/04/2025 16:53

The clitoris is used in the making of the penis.

You know when you have got to sit on your hands?

bridgetreilly · 17/04/2025 16:55

Mog65 · 17/04/2025 16:53

The clitoris is used in the making of the penis.

Nope. For a male foetus, the clitoris develops into a penis. For a trans man, a clitoris is deformed into something vaguely resembling a penis. It’s still not a penis, though.

ThejoyofNC · 17/04/2025 16:55

You seem to be implying that the vast majority of "transpeople" successfully pass for the opposite sex, is that your opinion?

Do you think that "passing" makes it acceptable to go into spaces that you're not supposed be in?

FatLarrysBanned · 17/04/2025 16:55

I'd rather take my chances fighting off f/m "George" who likely has to take time to inflate his "penis" and more likely to be my size and stature than 6ft 2" m/f "Georgina" with his intact home grown fully functioning, penis which he doesn't feel the need to get rid of to be a "woman".

DrSpartacularsMagnificentOctopus · 17/04/2025 16:56

Mog65 · 17/04/2025 16:53

The clitoris is used in the making of the penis.

Have you actually seen a phalloplasty?

You know that women don't pre out of their clitorises, right?

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