To want Elon Musk to stay the fuck out of U.K. politics?

[Birdscratch]

And German politics and just focus on the President he’s already paid for and turning X into a toxic wasteland.

And what an outdated undemocratic process it is.

More people didn't vote for Labour than did. But we are stuck with them now or for much longer if/when they change the voting requirements.

The horrific abuser and rapist who Musk and others drew attention to on Twitter was successfully prosecuted in 2013 along with rest of the Oxford gang. Starmer was DPP at the time. Musk seems to be ignorant of the facts.

I don't disagree with the sentiment of his calls, but if people genuinely lack the critical thinking skills to question why he's being vocal about this now, and why having a figure like him bandy around words like 'monarch' 'dissolve' and 'parliament' is problematic then I do worry about the future of this country.

Too true. How often do we see Bill Gates meeting with politicians/Heads of State, and there never seems to be much transparency about what was discussed.

Why does this post come after he tweeted about the girls being raped in Oldham? Kind of fucked up that you're so upset about someone raising awareness about that. Im not a fan of the man either but suspicious timing for this post.

This is the kind of mindset that allowed it to go on for so long let me guess you think it's "racist" to look into it too much

OP were you outraged when Labour interfered with the US election?

Jeez, calm down... you only posted that at 12.27... it might surprise you to learn that most of us don't spend our lives on MN!

But in answer to your question... Starmer was DoPP between 2008 and 2013. Greater Manchester Police later apologised for 'failing to investigate the child sexual exploitation allegations more thoroughly between 2008 and 2010'.

Starmer would have been across this entire investigation and how it was - or indeed wasn't! - being handled. THAT'S the question people want answers to by way of a national inquiry.
But the Labour govt - with Starmer at the helm - don't want one.
Hmm, funny that.

It’s scary to think how many people are ok with the fact the world is becoming the plaything and subject to the whims of a bored, drug addled and apparently friendless, almost trillionaire who’s throwing a tantrum because one of his 12+ kids is trans.

He’s a 21st century Caligula.

The American’s underestimated how much power he has over Trump. His boy Vance is waiting in the wings. We saw how he treated his workers on California. We know he wants American workers replaced with indentured servants on precarious visa’s.

He cares for nothing apart from the accumulation of money for himself like some sort of crazy obsession. He doesn’t care about the girls of Oldham, he wants to damage our elected government.

Regardless of whether you voted Labour or not, our country is based on OUR citizens voting for who is in charge. Even if you hate Labour, ceding our countries trajectory to a foreign based billionaire who cares nothing for our for us is bonkers.

The Americans will soon find out whether Musk gives a shit about their country. He will run it into the ground then move someone else. Trump will back him because Musk has paid off his debts and kept him out of jail which is all he wanted.

Maybe labour should have stayed the fuck out of American politics then.

mynbc15.com/amp/news/nation-world/british-labour-party-sending-staff-to-campaign-for-harris-in-us-swing-states-united-kingdom-uk-left-leaning-kamala-harris-2024-election-democratic-party-north-carolina-pennsylvania

It also came at the same time he tweeted telling everyone to vote Reform, posted disinformation about Starmer, and said that the King should dissolve parliament.

Why are you just focusing on one bit of what Musk has tweeted recently?

What do you think about Musk's tweet calling for Tommy Robinson to be released?

More people voted for Labour than for any other party. Hope this helps you understand

My point remains. More people did not vote for Labour than did, hope that helps you understand.

Greater Manchester Police later apologised for 'failing to investigate the child sexual exploitation allegations more thoroughly between 2008 and 2010

How was Starmer as DPP responsible for the failings of GMP?

Starmer would have been across this entire investigation and how it was - or indeed wasn't! - being handled

Of course he wouldn't. The CPS make decisions on whether to prosecute. It is the job of the police to investigate, not the CPS/ DPP.

You have conveniently ignored my questions about the court papers you referred to. Ah well. I will leave you to rant away about Starmer.

I do notice, and I do care.

They got more votes than any other party, they returned more candidates and control parliament.

The number of people who voted for other parties is completely immaterial as those votes were split between numerous different parties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_Kingdom_general_election#Results

Educate yourself

Then it’s up to us, the British electorate, to hold them to account. Not an American trillionaire with a power complex.

Wait till Reform score electoral victory. Rather than supporting them to execute their manifesto on the strength of their democratic mandate I suspect you'll be here commiserating with everyone else who feel it is unjust to make sweeping social changes on the basis of a small % of the electorates preference.

Hang on, am I not still waiting for you to define democracy?

How, exactly?

Sure. But there was a very active Mumsnet thread just yesterday about the rape gangs in Oldham. Musk posts a lot of shit constantly bit weird how this thread follows the one about Oldham a day after musk raised awareness.

Dislike the man if you want I do too but if you see an issue with someone raising awareness about the rape gangs then you are part of the problem.

So foreigners like musk apparently aren't allowed to speak on UK politics because they aren't British but these same idiots don't want it mentioned how foreign men come here and rape our daughters.

Make it make sense a lot of people are starting to get pissed off

No need for me to 'educate myself' I am fully aware of how our system works, hence my remark on how it is outdated and evidently not fit for purpose.

Regardless of your links and condescending tone, the point still stands: more people in this country did not vote for Labour than did. It's a plain and simple fact.

Elon is needed more than ever because of people like you who only want one particular narrative discussed.

No. He's not posting with good intentions or even the truth.

Has anyone read the court papers he's linked to?

The crimes are vile. The person committing then received a life sentence.

Whilst Starmer was DPP.

He's just posting sensationalist headlines without complete fact and whipping up the crowds.

No one denies what has happened is heinous. But he needs to practice what he preaches and keep out if foreign politics - especially when the intention isn't to create a better country it's to rip one to shreds by appealing to far edge groups.

Interestingly the right wing of our country have asked him to not endorse releasing TR.

It's a pointless fact and does not remove the legitimacy of the current government.

And frankly, it's for everyone to educate themselves, education and knowledge is a good thing. You should try it

Dislike the man if you want I do too but if you see an issue with someone raising awareness about the rape gangs then you are part of the problem.

This is trite nonsense. If someone is 'raising awareness' about the rape gangs because they are peddling racist nonsense, or to gain political power, or to try to paint Britain as a 'cautionary tale' while paying scant attention to the facts, rather than out of genuine desire to support the victims and bring the perpetrators (whatever race they are) to justice, then they are certainly not helpful.

He's a bloody minded shit stirring trouble maker. He's not remotely interested in people and should stay out what he doesn't understand..