Female nurses have to get changed with a male. They are told to go to another room. The man keeps the female changing room to himself. Wtaf is going on?

[TealTraybake]

Female nurses ‘forced out of changing rooms’ after complaining about trans colleague

NHS whistleblowers dubbed ‘Darlington Five’ say they feel ‘humiliated and dehumanised’

Read in The Telegraph: https://apple.news/AC7RGaXTPTYe2J4CAixEvDw

And ceased to interested in sport and their human right to participate in sport when the avenue for cheating and dominating female sport was closed. Funny that.

I'm in a public place and that just made me snort in a MOST unladylike manner.

From the article:

The five whistleblowers – Bethany Hutchison, Lisa Lockey, Annice Grundy, Tracey Hooper and Joanne Bradbury – said the “temporary” changing arrangement was wholly inadequate.
They also raised concerns after the trust’s workforce director wrote to each nurse, cautioning them against making any further allegations against the hospital or its staff “on any <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/KWhcX/www.telegraph.co.uk/social-media/" rel="nofollow" target="blank">media platformsms” and warning that their “behaviour” could lead to disciplinary action.^
The letter also warned: “Any behaviour, including that outside of work, that is considered inappropriate or disrespectful and/or which is directed towards another employee will not be tolerated and will be investigated appropriately under the trust’s disciplinary policy.”
In a joint statement, the nurses said: “We continue to be appalled at how we and our female colleagues are being humiliated and dehumanised by the hospital and trust. Instead of listening and acting on our concerns and the public and media outcry, they have doubled down, putting <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/KWhcX/www.telegraph.co.uk/transgender/" rel="nofollow" target="blank">transgenderer ideology before women’s safety.”^

If they are still taking legal action this could count as victimisation.

I hope they are still taking action. We still have no case law on single-sex spaces.

The article implies it is.

Can I just check here? The Righteous position is that a female person's main criterion for whether to get naked in a changing area is what a male person claims they are feeling?

Yes. How could that possibly go wrong?

Yes. Yes it is. Kind and inclusive innit.

Yes. Apparently "no cis men" is the rule.

But like, how easy would it be for cis men to sneak in claiming a trans identity?

Yes I think that’s it.

Not safe to change with a man.

Absolutely safe to change with a man who says he’s a woman (even though statistically the risk of harm from this group is at least as high as any other man if not higher)

It is bigoted to want spaces away from both groups because it fails to take into account the way men feel about themselves,

You mean 'non normative' transwomen?

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/03/25/in-spain-non-normative-trans-suspected-of-sabotaging-gender-transition-law_6650777_4.html

That's not possible, because anyone who claims a trans identity is no longer, or ever were, a "cis man".

But that never happens and The Righteous allies can absolutely tell the difference.

All that matters is that a male isn't a "cis man", peeps.

"Non-normative' transwomen is a new one on me! But seriously, it would be even easier for a "cis' man to infiltrate the transwoman-inclusive changing rooms than the women's wouldn't it? Would Piglgle be labelled phobic if she objected?

I stand with the Darlington 5, no woman should be forced to undress with a man irrespective of how he identifies.

And as many Scottish 'feminists' told us there is no evidence a predatory man has ever pretended to be something he's not in order to access victims.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/shona-robison-urged-resign-over-31236933

There is no requirement for a "trans" identity to be in good faith. Don't be gatekeeping.

No men should ever be in women's spaces, however much they want to be there.

Either we allow men into women's spaces - which means Isla Bryson gets to go to women's jail - or we don't. There is not really any middle ground.

And as many Scottish 'feminists' told us there is no evidence a predatory man has ever pretended to be something he's not in order to access victims.

Except for the evidence of all the many times it has and continues to happen of course.

It is remarkable, isn't it, what happens when women and girls people say 'no' to any male people?

Just 'no thank you' should be enough.

Either we allow men into women's spaces - which means Isla Bryson gets to go to women's jail - or we don't. There is not really any middle ground.

Agreed.