Female nurses have to get changed with a male. They are told to go to another room. The man keeps the female changing room to himself. Wtaf is going on?

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Female nurses ‘forced out of changing rooms’ after complaining about trans colleague

NHS whistleblowers dubbed ‘Darlington Five’ say they feel ‘humiliated and dehumanised’

Read in The Telegraph: https://apple.news/AC7RGaXTPTYe2J4CAixEvDw

Don't call India a man. India has been 100% pregnant and given birth but definitely isn't a man.

You bigot.

Mea culpa

Didn't India walk a long way to use the 'women only' toilets instead of the 'trans inclusive ' toilets at an airport? Piggle's solution won't fix that.

Didn't you know that female body parts can either be grown by men or they can be fashioned from another body part, because that's all they are - parts. They aren't organs. Men apparently can have a cervix, a vulva and a vaginal canal. Next up is creating hearts from kidneys and ears from toes.

Yes.

Yep. Hence my question earlier in the thread about what happens if we provide third spaces for trans people and they don't use them.

Yes. Out of malicious spite. It's just a malicious male 'marking his territory'.

Lies! What possible reason would a transwoman have for doing that?

The only people I can see using them are true gender dysphorics who try and blend in silently and mtob or trans men. It will not stop the very men we seek to keep out.

Nothing will stop them while people keep telling them it's ok to ignore women's boundaries.

A bit like when World Aquatics debuted an ‘Open’ category in their swimming world championships..

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2023/oct/03/swimming-world-cup-category-for-transgender-athletes-cancelled-after-no-entries-received

No one entered. This was a shocking turn of events.

Where I struggle with is how you are differentiating between cis-men and trans identified men? What is the tangible difference between those 2 groups of men, at what point does a cis man become a Trans identified man, what is the threshold and how do you identify that they have met it?

They're not, because they can't. They've wilfully refused to answer the question many, many times. Though apparently they'll send it in a secret PM, or not. And if you keep asking the awkward, unanswerable, question, they'll claim they're being bullied again.

It's almost like they don't just want privacy, safety and dignity, isn't it?

A bit like when World Aquatics debuted an ‘Open’ category in their swimming world championships..

They didn't want their own category, they wanted to dominate the female one.

I would have imagined that it's provided for nurses as they might get covered in bodily fluids when working so not particularly nice for them to have to go get in their car/go on public transport whilst covered in that.

The GRA should have been repealed the minute same sex marriage was made legal and grandfather rights given to the <5k who had them prior to this.

Or for anyone else on the bus, in the supermarket etc.

The GRA should have been repealed the minute same sex marriage was made legal and grandfather rights given to the <5k who had them prior to this.

It's clear from Hansard that one of the justifications given to dissenters is that it was only a tiny group.

Typical narcissistic male "me me me"

Yes! Let's have a nurse whose been vomited on or got covered in blood during the course of a fairly average day, get the tube home like that.

Let's calculate the minutes before this was deemed 'problematic'.

We expected consideration and respect, we didn't get it so in my opinion it should be a criminal offence if males, however they identify, whether or not they have GRC, use female facilities.

I’m wondering if the transwoman nurse could use the male changing room if all the men in there said they identified as women?

Cudgelling my brains for a solution. Have decided that every venue needs secret lady facilities, whereabouts vouchsafed only to genuine ladies. Sign on door say: beware of leopard.

Should be fine, I reckon.

The handmaidens....