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AIBU to think this man (who has undergone no transitioning) should be allow play on women's teams. Sick to my stomach this is happening.

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Mommymoments · 24/03/2023 07:43

https://extra.ie/2022/09/09/news/transgender-gaa-player-speaks-out

This man (in red) has undergone no attempt to transition. Yet he's playing on women's GAA football teams in Ireland because he feels he's a woman.
Imagine him tackling a poor woman would have no chance. Prior to that he played women's rugby.
Why is this happening in women's sports, prisons, changing rooms, toilets.
Why are trans women's rights more important than ours.
This man (who is in no way a woman or even a trans woman) needs to play with a team where the rest of the players have penises too or else start his own trans league. Get out of women's sports & spaces.

transgender

Transgender GAA Player: 'I Wish To Leave Lasting Legacy'

Transgender GAA player Giulia Valentino has broken her silence after a controversy erupted when a referee said she couldn't continue playing because of her

https://extra.ie/2022/09/09/news/transgender-gaa-player-speaks-out

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LlynTegid · 24/03/2023 07:55

Agree, it is a safety issue with any contact sport. Never mind issues such as changing rooms.

nighttalker · 24/03/2023 07:59

Fucking madness!!!

Noone actually gives a shit about women's safety, do they?!

SunnieShine · 24/03/2023 08:02

No man should play on a women's team. Full stop.

StewPots · 24/03/2023 08:03

Absolute lunacy and no one gives a shit! Was just saying this to DP whilst watching the 6 Nations - I hope they don’t allow men pretending to be women to play against ACTUAL women.

But lo and behold…. Wonder if it will all stop if some poor woman gets very seriously injured or dies because she got basically assaulted on a pitch? All just so some men pretending to be women don’t get their feelings hurt. Fuck off with that shit.

Cycling is a lost cause, as is running. So they’ve moved onto the next sports level - contact. Basically it’s a way to beat women without fear of prosecution. But hey, as long as “Mandy when it suits” doesn’t get HIS feelings hurt then it’s all ok!

Mommymoments · 24/03/2023 08:06

Isn't it just lunacy.. Just because he says he's a woman, they have to include him! Still has his penis, undergone no transitioning but just wants the physical advantage of playing against women to make himself feel like a big man.

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Howyiz · 24/03/2023 08:09

It is ridiculous! Especially as he isn't trans, he just has a fetish about wearing women's clothes. So women are being put in danger of injury so he can get his rocks off! It's disgusting!

Thank God some sporting bodies, like Athletics are starting to see the light.

"Valentino identifies as a woman and appears to have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria. A post on his Facebook wall suggests he has been prescribed wrong-sex hormones. However, in a podcast published in 2021, trans-identifying Valentino claimed to be "completely comfortable with my genitals."Beside women's football, he also engages in BDSM and fetish communities - a fact he advertises on his publicly available Facebook wall. Before moving to Ireland, under the pseudonym "DJ Mav," he played regularly at two "fetish clubs" in Rome: Ritual the Club and self-professed "world’s largest Fetish and Body Art Club" Torture Garden."

Rainbowshit · 24/03/2023 08:09

Mommymoments · 24/03/2023 08:06

Isn't it just lunacy.. Just because he says he's a woman, they have to include him! Still has his penis, undergone no transitioning but just wants the physical advantage of playing against women to make himself feel like a big man.

And access to the female changing rooms...

Was it Hannah mouncey who kicked up a fuss because they were allowed to play on the women's team but not allowed in the changing rooms?

StellaElevator · 24/03/2023 08:09

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HoneyPotBee · 24/03/2023 08:11

I think I’ve seen this discussed before. It feels like this man is just taking the piss out of trans people. Nice to see MN drawing attention to it.

BadgerFacedCoo · 24/03/2023 08:11

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Lol.

Rainbowshit · 24/03/2023 08:11

It's outrageously unfair.

World athletics have just said no more gender confused males in female sport. Here's hoping other sporting bodies follow suit.

porridgecake · 24/03/2023 08:12

Fallon Fox already fractured Tamika Brents' skull. Nobody cares

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 24/03/2023 08:13

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Then they shouldn’t play in women’s teams.

MaryHinges · 24/03/2023 08:14

Is there any chance this is just a wind up?

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 24/03/2023 08:14

Thank God for World Athletics seeing sense. Hoping other bodies follow suit quickly.

dementedpixie · 24/03/2023 08:15

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It's a he
Taking cross sex hormones does not turn you into a women

PinkFlamingo888 · 24/03/2023 08:15

I attend a ladies’ judo class. I went to a session a while ago where I got paired with a trans person. They were way bigger than I am and clearly had the power of a man and I ended up injured. Why were they allowed to attend and make me feel unsafe?

Weallgottachangesometime · 24/03/2023 08:16

Sport should be separated by sex.
someone’s gender ID isn’t really relevant at all. Why would how someone feels inside make a difference to what sex they play with?

I think it is telling that people are calling for inclusion into womens sports rather than for mixed sex sports. If they truly believe sex was irrelevant in sport surely they would be asking for mix sex categories.

SlashBeef · 24/03/2023 08:16

As a PP said World Athletics have banned trans women from competing in women's categories. We can only hope everyone else will catch up. I do feel like the tide is turning albeit slowly.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 24/03/2023 08:17

@Rainbowshit infeed it was Link

bloody women and their boundaries eh

AIBU to think this man (who has undergone no transitioning) should be allow play on women's teams. Sick to my stomach this is happening.
KimWexlersPonyTail · 24/03/2023 08:17

There is no such thing as transition, lowering hormones and removing genitalia doesn't remove the advantage that a male puberty gives you. This person will always have a y chromosone. This gives a pelvis better designed for running, longer stronger bones , bigger heart and lungs.plus no pesky periods to worry about whilst competing and training!

unclebuck · 24/03/2023 08:18

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So, to be clear @StellaElevator, you think that person is a woman?

😂

MarshaBradyo · 24/03/2023 08:18

Everyone agreeing yanbu

Theeyeballsinthesky · 24/03/2023 08:18

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Lol
of he’s taking “cross sex hormones” he should ask for his money back as they’ve clearly made no difference at all

seriously though a man taking oestrogen is just thar - a man taking oestrogen!

IncompleteSenten · 24/03/2023 08:19

PinkFlamingo888 · 24/03/2023 08:15

I attend a ladies’ judo class. I went to a session a while ago where I got paired with a trans person. They were way bigger than I am and clearly had the power of a man and I ended up injured. Why were they allowed to attend and make me feel unsafe?

Because women's safety is unimportant.