AIBU to think this man (who has undergone no transitioning) should be allow play on women's teams. Sick to my stomach this is happening.

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https://extra.ie/2022/09/09/news/transgender-gaa-player-speaks-out

This man (in red) has undergone no attempt to transition. Yet he's playing on women's GAA football teams in Ireland because he feels he's a woman.
Imagine him tackling a poor woman would have no chance. Prior to that he played women's rugby.
Why is this happening in women's sports, prisons, changing rooms, toilets.
Why are trans women's rights more important than ours.
This man (who is in no way a woman or even a trans woman) needs to play with a team where the rest of the players have penises too or else start his own trans league. Get out of women's sports & spaces.

Well yes we can thank God. Womens athletics. Needs to be much much broader than just athletics. A lot of work to do there.

No matter how many hormones they take, they will always be a MAN”…”it’s all a delusion in their head”…

why is it a horrible attitude? It's biology correct! What part of that is wrong? Or horrible?

A man is a man from conception. A woman is a woman from conception.

You can cut bits off you can sew bits on. You can take drugs not meant for your body that will make your body mimic some of the traits of the other sex.

But NEVER has a man turned into a woman or vice versa.

NEVER.

And what has homosexuality got to do with a man thinking he's a woman or a woman thinking she's a man?

Two completely different topics and groups that have been forcibly teamed together to help strengthen the trans position whilst deciminating rights for lesbians and gays to actually be lesbians and gays without women being gaslighted into accepting a man with a penis is a lesbian and men being asked to accept a woman with a vagina is a gay man.

OP, I think there is an error in your title. Think the word ‘should’ is intended to be ‘shouldn’t’.

While most of what is being asked for in terms of protection of single sex spaces is totally reasonable I find it unsettling how nasty many women are about it. Some are not but many describe trans women in such awful terms and it seems like they think they are all disgusting or sexually deviant or deliberately trying to hurt females. Surely you can have some compassion for people who are trans and having a really tough time while also being firm that single sex spaces are important and should be protected?

Women have tried being kind. It’s got us to the point where there are male rapists in women’s prisons. To the point that males are dominating women’s sports. To where we can’t object to a male pleasuring himself in women’s changing rooms in front of young girls because it’s bigoted. To the point males are winning “woman of the year” prizes.

Being kind doesn’t work. We need to call a spade a spade and a man a man.

@SaysRelaaxxx don't you dare try to bring homosexuality into this. There is no comparison.

Well now that's cleared up, I self ID as a member of the Royal family. I am now waiting patiently for a maid to draw my bath, lay out my clothes and present me with a casket of diamond tiaras.

Sadly it's the woke world we all let happen.

Well they can't swap chromosomes- someone with XY chromosomes is always a man.

No pitchforks here, just recognition of biological truth.

And can we remember that traumatised rape victims have been told to reframe their trauma when they objected to males being included in their therapy session. I mean, can no one see that is clearly the work of a fetishist to want to listen to a woman's rape story.

Stop being a ridiculous TERF.

WAAAAAGH! I’m telling teacher on you!

Some are not but many describe trans women in such awful terms and it seems like they think they are all disgusting or sexually deviant or deliberately trying to hurt females.

What it means to be trans has evolved significantly in recent years so it no longer means what most people think it means.

The "trans community" provide daily examples of how they would like to hurt women.

https://terfisaslur.com/

There are links I could post to address your other claims but this post would be deleted. Again the "trans community" provides us with daily examples of the sexual motivation some men have for saying they are women. I learned yesterday that there is a whole new genre of porn called changing room porn, this is'women with penis's' filming themselves masturbating in female changing rooms. We have known for some time that this happens because they will occasional post reviews on websites such as M&S where they report taking items into the women's changing room and ejaculating on them before returning them to the shop floor, in one instance the reviewer stated that they in hoped 'some TERF' buys the semen stained items.

I have put 'trans community' because I do not believe that most of the individuals who behave this way have a diagnosis of gender dysphoria. Why so many people are allowing these unpleasant individuals to force team with people who do have gender dysphoria is a mystery.

This shit grinds my gears! If you're born male then you're a male!!!! No cutting your dick off, calling himself Mary, or pills will change that! Males are males and visa versa end of story.
He should not be playing on a woman's team.

While most of what is being asked for in terms of protection of single sex spaces is totally reasonable I find it unsettling how nasty many women are about it. Some are not but many describe trans women in such awful terms and it seems like they think they are all disgusting or sexually deviant or deliberately trying to hurt females. Surely you can have some compassion for people who are trans and having a really tough time while also being firm that single sex spaces are important and should be protected?

Being kind has resulted in -

-Rapists in women's prisons.
-Lesbians being called bigots for rejecting penises in their dating pool.
-Children being put on harmful medical pathways.
-Mediocre men winning and taking places from women in what should be female sport.
-Unisex toilets being introduced in schools.
-Children being taught there are 100 or more genders.
-Drag queen story time for pre-schoolers.
-Girls being molested by transwomen in supermarket toilets.
-Males running rape crisis centres telling women to reframe their trauma and that they are bigots if they want single sex therapy.

This is not an exhaustive list.

If she tells me when she’s older she feels like she’s a boy I would be supportive in her exploring why she feels that way and ultimately if she wanted to transition I would support that too (though not as a child).

I have a gender non conforming autistic daughter, I will never tell her that is not really a girl. There is no wrong way to be a girl or a woman. I find it shocking the number of autistic or otherwise vulnerable girls who are having mastectomies in the name of this ideology. That's not being kind. It's horrific.

I will quote whoever I like - i don't agree with your assessment of him in any case, your opinion is just that - your opinion which you are free to hold. Free speech and all that, please don't try and shut down women's debate with an unevidenced subjective opinion.

However, it is possible even to disagree with a person on some of their opinions whilst standing with them on another issue - the world is not black and white, shutting down debate and speech is facist as is the compelled speech of gender ideology.

what's more this interview is not mysogistic or messed up, I suggest you watch it before trying to undermine an opinion with an unevidenced and subjective response. In your opinion he is x,y,z - your opinion holds little to no sway in my opinion.

Ooh, someone mentioned the kill Terfs signage. Allow me, plus a another image that sums up everything that's wrong with the current women shut up and believe a man when he says he's a woman rules of life.

@SaysRelaaxxx I think you might be interested to read Hannah Barnes new book called "Time to Think".

In it she mentions that of the 20 or 30 doctors who resigned from the Tavistock Clinic, every single one cited concerns about homophobic parents who wanted to 'trans the gay away'. The staff even had a dark joke that there would be no gay kids left.

It's not just in countries like Iran where gay people are being forced to transition, it's happening in woke countries too. When you listen to detransitioners, almost all of them say they were teased for being gay by their parents or their peers, and they thought that being trans was more socially acceptable.

Genderism is homophobic to its core. There's nothing 'kind' about it.

It's an entirely regressive faith based belief system, filled with followers denouncing heretics. And women get told to keep their words gentle while their single sex spaces, sex based biology and sex based protections are being thrown into the bonfire of #bekind.

This is shocking!!

Surely you can have some compassion for people who are trans and having a really tough time while also being firm that single sex spaces are important and should be protected?

And where is the compassion for women who are losing out on competition places in sport? Women self excluding from rape crisis centres, or from sports where men are in female categories? Women suffering from increased risk of assault/ flashing/ covert photography in mixed sex changing rooms and loos?

Any women’s rights rally or talk is surrounded by men in black clothes and masks, by others carrying violent and offensive slogans. Saying they want to f*ck TERFS, that women should be guillotined, that they should be threatened with knives, guns, axes?

Where is that fabled compassion being directed to women?

So no. I won’t mince my words and be all ‘feminine’ and ‘kind’ in case there are any sad hurty feels. I will speak the truth and stand up for women.

That's happening in Ireland too.. Gays who dont want to date transitioned people are being ridiculed & called Transphobic... Plenty online about lesbians who are being called biggoted because they don't want to date trans men, semi trans or men like Valentino above who "feels" like a women.. Same for gay men. Gay rights are absolutely being attacked & demeaned also by this Trans Army.

It is the ultimate in double standards.

My niece who is extremely talented at rugby, was told she would have to play with girls only once she reached the age of 12.

So she can't play alongside boys age 12 who are shorter and more lightly built, but women can play with a man as long as he 'feels like a woman'.

Fucked up world we live in.

Sadly then you need to find out more about him. He is an example of the worst kind of woman-hating narcissist, in the same camp as Andrew Tate.
There is a real problem with these right wingers latching on to the gender transformation issue. They want to know that the women they oppress and abuse are purely xx chromosomed.

Well it is a mental illness, and it's also true to say he will always be a man. Biology doesn't change just because someone says they feel like a woman. He will never be a woman anymore than he could wake up and become a tree.

I feel like sanity might be returning due to the efforts of mainly women in the UK I am proud to say. Mumsnet feminist boards played no small part in the fight back starting with Man Friday and I Am Sporticus if anyone remembers that? I still have the t shirt 😁

We are bigoted?Well @lifeturnsonadime you my dear are a womanphobe & a woman hater.