AIBU to think this man (who has undergone no transitioning) should be allow play on women's teams. Sick to my stomach this is happening.

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https://extra.ie/2022/09/09/news/transgender-gaa-player-speaks-out

This man (in red) has undergone no attempt to transition. Yet he's playing on women's GAA football teams in Ireland because he feels he's a woman.
Imagine him tackling a poor woman would have no chance. Prior to that he played women's rugby.
Why is this happening in women's sports, prisons, changing rooms, toilets.
Why are trans women's rights more important than ours.
This man (who is in no way a woman or even a trans woman) needs to play with a team where the rest of the players have penises too or else start his own trans league. Get out of women's sports & spaces.

Thank you, I thought I was reading a different thread to everyone else.

The hormones came after the playing rugby with women though, not before.
And even years of the stuff won't take away going though a male puberty.

Well I'd start by reassuring him that he can wear whatever he wants and if he wants to look like a woman that's fine.

I'd get him some counselling to explore what the issue is and what would help him. If thats hormones and gender reassignment to look female, fine.

But I'd make it clear that he'd still be male. I would fight tooth and nail to stop him believing a lie - that people can change sex.

He could become a transwoman. He can never become a woman.

This is spot on.

Speaks volumes, doesn't it.

I’d tell him he’s perfect the way he is. He is the best and only version of him and he doesn’t need to change a thing.

He should present as however he wishes (there are no laws on men wearing dresses, make-up and having long hair - you realise this, right?). But he can’t change sex.

So he should embrace himself, just as the people who love him do.

❤️

Is it ‘discrimination’ to tell an adult they can’t play in the child’s category of a sport? No. It’s exactly the same to state that men cannot play in a women’s category.

Even if a man ‘lowers his testosterone’ it is still much higher than a woman’s. If a female athlete took testosterone to raise to that dropped level she’d be banned for doping! It’s a fucking joke.
Bravo to World Athletics for clearly preserving the female category and let’s hope it spreads into grassroots sports so men like this one in the op can be told to get the hell out of a playing field and changing room of young women.

What does "living as a woman" mean?

I think it is telling that people are calling for inclusion into womens sports rather than for mixed sex sports. If they truly believe sex was irrelevant in sport surely they would be asking for mix sex categories.

Great point @Weallgottachangesometime

Apparently sex isn’t a thing. Binary doesn’t exist.

Except it really, really does, doesn’t it?

I definitely wouldn't gaslight him, or encourage him to poison his body with wrong sex hormones or be castrated.
How the hell does anyone manage to parent their children if you're going to be stumped by such a ludicrous notion as the suggestion your son might actually be a girl?

That's so totally out of line. I'm in a closely related budo art and for a number of reasons personally prefer mixed groups which are the standard anyway. As women we've had anything approaching aggression or even physical robustness so thoroughly bred out of us that especially with fairly novice women it can be really frustrating to not get a proper attack from female practice partners. All the more reason to leave the rare women's sessions for those who need and want them!

That man should not.be playing in women's sports.

How he wants to express his personality/gender is up to him and he should not.be subject to any hate due to his presentation.

Most martial arts classes are mixed sex and really what is rhe point of learning self defence if you are only able take on people your own size!

And to a pp I’d very much hope that none of my sons tell me the now derided concept that they were ‘born in the wrong body’. There is no such thing has a ‘gendered soul’ trapped in a body. It’s offensive terminology.

I would tell them to wear the clothes they liked and to embrace the parts of their personality that society deem ‘feminine’. But I’d explain that liking pink or baking or feeling emotional at films doesn’t mean he’s a woman. Those are normal human emotions and pursuits and it’s only society who have put those things into ‘boxes’. If they want to wear a dress and wear nail polish they can knock themselves out but they’re still boys and they always will be. I would encourage them to get off social media, get out and active and to stop surrounding themselves in a toxic ideology that’s harmful to children, misogynistic and homophobic.

What does 'live as a woman' mean?

Totally agree, there is not a "trans story" which comes without an underlying mental health issue, except for the AGPs which come from sexual fetish. Addressing the underlying issue should be the first port of call.

90% of children that present with actual dysphoria (the trendy aspect we seeing currently imo shows that there are people without dysphoria being captured) self resolve if no social transition or medical transition is undertaken. 80% of early presenting dysphoric children that self resolve turn out to be homosexual.

It feels to me like the new way men can control women. We’ve become more powerful and independent, so now rather than crushing us, men want to be us. It’s conquering from within.

Tell me you don't understand GAA without telling me you don't understand GAA...

Yeh I'm wondering what "live as a woman" means too.

I haven't worn make up since the 1990's and my DD hasn't worn a skirt since she was 6. Does this mean that...shock horror!.... we are not women! Note to self: must make more effort to live as a woman 🤣🤣

This is interesting, this is a.therapist who was part of the gender cult who has realised the harm that she has done.

It is not kind or right to transition your child.

Who on earth voted YABU?

@HoneyPotBee i think we need to keep all this fresh in people's minds. I have three daughters who love sport including GAA here in Ireland. Why should one of my girls have to face him on the playing field. Him who says he's perfectly comfortable with his "genitals"..

I'd feel bad as it would show if failed as a mother, raising a misogynistic male who thinks stereotypes are real and this somehow means they can help themselves to women's provision and sports. I wouldn't be cheerleading any agp. I wouldn't be encouraging any internalised misogyny and would be very clear that same SEX attraction exists and is a normal part of life. I certainly wouldn't want them doing extreme plastic surgeries and hormones that limit their quality of life and life expectancy. I'd probably not have to worry about the last one, seeing as most of them have zero surgery. I wouldn't cheerlead fgm. Why would I cheerlead experimental genital surgery.

Being homosexual. Fine
Wearing dresses. Fine
Non stereotype hobbies. Fine (but don't invade women's same sex spaces. Mixed sex or create your own)
Believing in a gendered soul. Sexist and harmful but most religions are and I would tolerate it. Providing they stay beliefs and don't transfer into actions that harm others (which they nearly always do)
Thinking women is a costume that means you can use women as props and invade sports and places. Not fine.

Unfortunately not. The GAA in Ireland have passed a ruling to allow Valentino & all trans play on women's teams.

I'd be interested to know how many transmen are on male sports teams. Not many, I imagine.

But what does living as a woman MEAN? I wear trousers, don’t wear lipstick, haven’t worn heels in years. I’m a woman, am I not living like one? Am I womaning wrong?