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To think this woman should not be put in prison?

960 replies

Nooyoiknooyoik · 02/03/2023 15:31

Bizarre and very unfair Link

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takealettermsjones · 02/03/2023 15:32

Context would help! Many people do not click on random links.

ClaraThePigeon · 02/03/2023 15:33

There's already a long thread on it here someone tell me what crime has been committed?
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4754199-someone-tell-me-what-crime-has-been-committed with much more information but again we're only seeing a fraction of the evidence that would have been put before the jury.

Strawberrysosweet · 02/03/2023 15:33

She caused the death of a woman!

TrombonesAreNotBones · 02/03/2023 15:35

From that BBC article kinked in the OP:

Sentencing Grey, Judge Enright said she was "territorial about the pavement" and "resented" the cyclist being there.
The trial heard Grey had cerebral palsy and was partially sighted, but the judge said: "These actions are not explained by disability."
He said that she had given a "dishonest account in interview" and there was "not a word about remorse until today".
Judge Enright added that "consideration of other road users is the lesson of this tragic case".

So yes, I feel the sentence is sound.

ghostyslovesheets · 02/03/2023 15:35

Well that's for the jury and judge to decided - those who have all the facts of the case

but IMO she caused someone's death and then walked away so yeah she needs to be dealt with accordingly

MN is odd really - baying for blood over some things and expressing puzzlement over others

Nooyoiknooyoik · 02/03/2023 15:36

Ah ok, I looked for a discussion but couldn’t find it. Thanks.

Someone died but it was an accident. Pure and simple. Accidents do happen.

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Porpl · 02/03/2023 15:37

I agree, it's a tragedy but I don't think it benefits society her being jailed.

Chevyimpala67 · 02/03/2023 15:38

Have you seen the footage?

FloydPepper · 02/03/2023 15:38

As usual there will be a lot of posters who, despite having less information than a jury, know better than them…

winterbegone · 02/03/2023 15:38

It wasn't an accident so she should be punished

GoodnightJude1 · 02/03/2023 15:40

If I’d had been my mum on the bike and she’d have died then yes, I’d want her punished.
There are lots of people in prison because of a ‘moment of madness’….when that moment of madness leads to someone’s death then a punishment is needed, in my eyes.

Nooyoiknooyoik · 02/03/2023 15:40

Chevyimpala67 · 02/03/2023 15:38

Have you seen the footage?

Yes. It was an accident.

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jojogoesbust · 02/03/2023 15:40

After watching the footage it was a fair sentence.

Sarahconnor1 · 02/03/2023 15:40

It wasn't an accident. Her actions directly led to someone's death. Then instead of helping, or calling for help she left the scene and went shopping

Emmamoo89 · 02/03/2023 15:41

She deserves to be in prison

Theluggage15 · 02/03/2023 15:42

It wasn’t an accident and tbh you’re sounding like an idiot. There was this thing called a trial with this other stuff called evidence.

userxx · 02/03/2023 15:43

It was horrible to watch. Hope she has it tough in prison.

Custardbanana · 02/03/2023 15:43

Nooyoiknooyoik · 02/03/2023 15:40

Yes. It was an accident.

Which is why it was manslaughter not murder

Blort · 02/03/2023 15:44

I dont understand it.

Just recently the parents whp left their 16 year old child to die infested with maggots were "only" convicted of gross negligence.

The boys who pushed a firework into a pensioners house so she died in a house fire - manslaughter

Walking on a pavement as a disabled woman and telling off a cylist - manslaugter?

In light of other convictions for manslaughter (which is often negotiated down from murder) I just cant see it.

UnfinishedBusiness · 02/03/2023 15:44

There was nothing “accidental” about the way she harangued that elderly woman off the pavement into the path of an oncoming vehicle. There was also nothing accidental about her not giving enough shits to hang around to see if she would be ok. She just nipped off to the supermarket to do her weekly shop.

ancientgran · 02/03/2023 15:45

Considering the judge seems to refer to road users when the incident was a pavement and states it was a cycle path when the police and council can't confirm that I don't have great confidence in his judgement.

Kois · 02/03/2023 15:45

Shouldn't have been on the pavement.

Blort · 02/03/2023 15:46

Sarahconnor1 · 02/03/2023 15:40

It wasn't an accident. Her actions directly led to someone's death. Then instead of helping, or calling for help she left the scene and went shopping

Lack of remorse isnt an indication of whether a crime was committed though? It should have a bearing on sentencing yes, but she caused an accident and fucked off. It does make her a shitty person. But you cant go around imprisoning every shitty person, prisons would be full by goverment ministers alone.

Strawberrysosweet · 02/03/2023 15:47

@Blort she didn’t ‘tell her off.’ That is massively minimising.

She literally shoved her into oncoming traffic. She meant her harm.

oldwhyno · 02/03/2023 15:48

You can't go scaring people into evasive action that causes an incident that kills them. It's an appropriate sentence to my mind, and she probably won't serve that long.

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